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Post by prowljazz on Sept 13, 2011 18:44:15 GMT
My Freind has asked Me to get a list of What Species can Breed with What Species?
Example can Achatina fulica Breed with Albino Reticulata? Thanks Guys
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Post by ness on Sept 13, 2011 22:04:31 GMT
That's a good question because it's something that people often wonder when they want to house different species together.
The short answer is no.
Different species CANNOT produce fertilised eggs together. On rare occasions (and I have only seen one or two photos of this and almost never seen it written) two different species mate, but they cannot produce young.
However I can see occasions where people might think that snails can - I'll try to explain....
Archachatina marginata ovum and Archachatina marginata sutralis can mate and produce young, though it's reported that sometimes the babies are weaker. These two types of snails are subspecies of marginata and I suppose that's one of the closest examples you can get to different types of snails mating, but strictly speaking they are not really different species.
Achatina fulica can mate with other types of Achatina fulica..... Those snails known as hamillei, rodatzi, jade, and jadatzi can all mate and produce young together as they are all simply different genetic lines and colour varieties of Achatina fulica. But they are not different species.
It's not uncommon for people to house two different species of snails together and find eggs which hatch into baby snails. It can be puzzling as there may be only one of each species in the tank. However snails can mate with another of its own species and store the sperm for many months before allowing its eggs to become fertilised. People can buy these snails and many months can pass before one day they find eggs, and it's natural to think that the snail has mated with its tank-friend but this was not the case.
Hope that helps. If I've not explained it well please say so. It's a common question so I'm trying to put detail in for all of those who wonder about the subject.
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Post by prowljazz on Sept 15, 2011 7:59:11 GMT
Very Helpful Thank You
So in other words Prowl or Jazz couldn't Mate with OneEye and produce fertilised eggs, Right? But if I got a jade They Could?
Oh Man My Brain Hurts.... ***GRIN***
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Post by ness on Sept 15, 2011 20:54:05 GMT
Very Helpful Thank You So in other words Prowl or Jazz couldn't Mate with OneEye and produce fertilised eggs, Right? But if I got a jade They Could? Oh Man My Brain Hurts.... ***GRIN*** Yes that's correct . No worries you're not alone - the different names for fulica catches plenty of people out. It can sound like folk are talking about seperate species when they say "my rodatzi mated with my jade" etc....
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Post by wolf on Sept 16, 2011 9:02:51 GMT
Hi ness, thanks a lot for your beautiful post..... . You have cleared it up , straight to the point. Marvelous. Kind regards: wolf
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Post by Greta on Sept 18, 2011 18:39:43 GMT
i think a. retics and ablicata can produce young together
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Post by ness on Sept 18, 2011 20:08:24 GMT
Over from another thread Hooves asked: Hi! Ever since I was little I have always kept snails as pets. I now have water snails ( quite big , allways black shells ) and the common garden snail ( haha ) and the snail you find with a coloured shell. What my question is , what can I cross them with to make them a little more interesting? And if there is a particular breed/type where can I purchase them from? Thankyou x As mentioned above different species will not produce viable eggs even in the unlikely event of them mating. Differrent varieties of the same species might. Garden snail: If you have a Helix aspersa then it may have a patterned or plain brown shell. It may be an average sort of size or larger. The large Helix aspersa are called Helix aspersa maxima and they CAN mate with normal Helix aspersa. Mine did and produced a beautiful mix of babies - stripy, plain, some larger and some smaller. They are not technically different species though. colourful garden snails:I assume they are Cepaea nemoralis or Cepaea hortensis. They are gorgeous snails, coming in a wide variety of dark and light skin, pinkish or yellow, orange or brown shells, plain, one stripe, several stripes..... There have been several studies on shell morphology, on what happens when the snails breed - what the trigger may be for snails to breed plain shelled offspring, stripy offspring etc, why the colour varieties come about. I will try to find links to the information for you but it may take a while. In the meantime if you look up on search engines cepaea and shell stripe study or something similar you may find out what you are looking for. Watersnail...........Well firstly it depends upon the type of water snail. For example Ramshorn snails come in many different colour variations. Breeding them together will not always result in a new colour or a mix of colours from the parents. From my understanding it will often result in the offspring reverting to the original brown ramshorn colour depending upon what you try. I don't know much about watersnail species and breeding to be honest and I have no idea which type you have, but you are best trying to identifying it and looking up its species on a search engine to find your answer, or to find someone who breeds them and ask... they may be able to recommend a mate for your snail to produce something interesting.
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Post by prowljazz on Sept 19, 2011 19:45:39 GMT
Looking at More Photos We now are 98% sure that SnailBurt is an Reticulata not a A. immaculata.... If we are Right That mean that He can Mate with say OneEye {an Albino reticulata} and Produce fertilised eggs, Right?
My Brain STILL Hurts....
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Post by ness on Sept 19, 2011 21:22:45 GMT
I can find phtos of Prowl, Jazz and Mr Perfect but not Snailburt. Would you mind posting up a photo of him please?
If Snailburt is a reticulata (normal coloured or albino) he can certainly mate with One-Eye. Whether he actually does or not though is a different matter, they can be fussy when it comes to breeding. The question is - do you want them to breed (assuming they are both reticulata)? If you do then the you can be sure to get some advice on encouraging them. Retics are vulnerable to dying soon after laying eggs. Not wanting to upset you at all, but it is something you need to be aware of if you intend breeding them. However plenty of people have kept retics together without them breeding. They procede with more caution than fulica I think.
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Post by prowljazz on Sept 22, 2011 18:57:02 GMT
Ness, I Know she'd like to breed the Albino's.... So any pointers would be VERY Helpful Thanks
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