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Post by tsrebel on May 6, 2013 23:37:06 GMT
I know there are different opinions regarding feeding live snails. I respect that some would rather freeze eggs, but I prefer everything to be of use. I got my three beautiful carnivorous snails today. They are probably Edentulina obesa, but the seller was not sure.  I think they are a gorgeous addition to my collection/menagerie ;D  and really stretchy!  So far they don't seem hungry, despite being in the mail for a week and despite being offered all the different species I have  Hopefully they will eat some tonight. I've not been able to find much information on how to make them thrive, so I'll update with my observations here. More images: snegler.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/gronne-monstre-hurra/ |
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Post by tsrebel on May 7, 2013 1:09:53 GMT
The first on has eaten! I really hope I'll get them to thrive. A little scary, very exciting  They are nails, but quite different. |
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Post by malacophile on May 7, 2013 1:39:11 GMT
Am I the only one who initially read the thread title as "cannabis snails"?  Incredible! Their strechiness is most bizarre, and almost a little menacing. Did you get to watch the one eat? Do they eat like normal snails, or are their mouthparts adapted somehow? What would happen if you let one rasp at you? Sorry about all the questions.  These guys are absolutely fascinating, though! An I bet they'd look cool under a black light. |
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Post by morningcoffee on May 7, 2013 6:59:50 GMT
I know there are different opinions regarding feeding live snails. I respect that some would rather freeze eggs, but I prefer everything to be of use. I got my three beautiful carnivorous snails today. They are probably Edentulina obesa, but the seller was not sure. I think they are a gorgeous addition to my collection/menagerie ;D and really stretchy! So far they don't seem hungry, despite being in the mail for a week and despite being offered all the different species I have Hopefully they will eat some tonight. I've not been able to find much information on how to make them thrive, so I'll update with my observations here. More images: snegler.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/gronne-monstre-hurra/Beautiful snails! Yes they look like Edentulina obesa. From what I've heard about them, they are hunters like Euglandina rosea and will chase down other slugs/snails from their slime trail, but they also eat worms and grubs. Hopefully they will all eat something once they've settled in Best of luck with them! There is some info here from someone who was keeping them, and discussion of how they capture and eat their prey (it's in Italian but you can use Google Translate!) - warning, photos of slugs and snails being eaten! forum.aracnofilia.org/topic/13407-streptaxidae-probabile-edentulina-sp/I also read on another forum (sorry, can't find the link) that someone who was keeping them noticed that sometimes after eating they would retract deeply into their shells and stay there for several days as if dead, not coming out even when bathed. Then suddenly a few days later they re-emerged from their shells totally active again, so keep an eye out for that! |
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Post by tsrebel on May 7, 2013 14:39:55 GMT
Am I the only one who initially read the thread title as "cannabis snails"? Incredible! Their strechiness is most bizarre, and almost a little menacing. Did you get to watch the one eat? Do they eat like normal snails, or are their mouthparts adapted somehow? What would happen if you let one rasp at you? Sorry about all the questions. These guys are absolutely fascinating, though! An I bet they'd look cool under a black light. Brilliantly misread  Iwatched the one eat, but they are so small (ca 3cm) that I can't say anything definate about their mouth parts. But they look like normal snails'. I've not held them yet, but would imagine they sting more than rasp, after seeing a drawing of their radula. And I'd think that they may not even try to rasp a human, because they only eat snaily things. Will update with observations  They are really fascinating, noe need to excuse the questions |
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Post by Johnnywho on May 7, 2013 15:42:15 GMT
Great snails! |
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Post by vickyholt13 on May 7, 2013 18:02:20 GMT
I love the shell colour they are very very stretchy looking hehe bless them
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Post by jembolina on May 7, 2013 23:28:25 GMT
Wow you mustn't be very fond of your other snails, I love my little guys and would never enclose them with a predator. There goes their main benefit to being kept as pets, or in your case an exhibit.
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Post by malacophile on May 8, 2013 2:09:17 GMT
I don't think Tsrebel said anything about keeping them with their other snails, nor as an exhibit.  I know some people don't agree with feeding live snails to other snails, but to each his own. |
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Post by brunni on May 8, 2013 7:47:38 GMT
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Post by tsrebel on May 8, 2013 10:20:47 GMT
Thanks, brunni Do you know if they are immune against the illnesses and parasites of other snails? I'd think that they would have a high risk of getting sick when they pray on other snails - some of them likely infected with something. And especially when feeding them snails from another continent (as I plan to do). Could this be one of the reasons not many people have succeded in breeding them? Jembolina: No, I keep them separate from my other snails. So far they don't seem too ferocious. They have got some Helix pomatia babies, a Cepaea nemoralis and a Leptaxis undata living with them. Only one C. nemoralis has been eaten. The snails I feed them will be the ones that I'd otherwise put to sleep in the freezer. I'll get them some slugs when I go for a walk in the rain we'll get later today. They're only exhibited to myself (and I don't think that qualifies as an exhibit). |
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Post by Johnnywho on May 8, 2013 16:02:29 GMT
Can they eat normal Vegetarian stuff that snails eat, or do they just eat other snails?
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Post by tsrebel on May 8, 2013 16:54:58 GMT
They eat just snails and slugs. No veggies.
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Post by Johnnywho on May 8, 2013 20:08:54 GMT
Wow |
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Post by brunni on May 11, 2013 8:05:38 GMT
Captive rearing of WC Edentulina species is a recent phenomenon. There is little information on short-term care, I could find nothing on breeding/long-term management and all images are of adult snails around 3 cms in length.
Digestion of food is apparently accompanied by an emission of slime : a complex process that probably immobilizes the prey and assists breakdown and "steralization"of the prey tissue.
tsrebel : can you post a photo with as much detail as you can get of the head ? ;D In particular the mouth area ?
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Post by tsrebel on May 11, 2013 13:59:29 GMT
There seems to be a woman in Russia or Ukraine who breeds them, but the language makes it hard for me to get info, even with google translate. I'll try to get that picture for you I've seen that they do have a large lip like the Euglandia rosea (but smaller). |
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Hopefully they will eat some tonight. I've not been able to find much information on how to make them thrive, so I'll update with my observations here.
They are nails, but quite different.
These guys are absolutely fascinating, though! An I bet they'd look cool under a black light.
They are really fascinating, noe need to excuse the questions 
I know some people don't agree with feeding live snails to other snails, but to each his own.