moose
Achatina fulica
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Post by moose on Mar 1, 2015 20:43:15 GMT
Hello, I can't post in the identification section so I hope this is OK going here. I got these two yesterday and was wondering if anyone could assist with a snaily ID? In my (incredibly) limited knowledge of snail types I'm thinking either achatina fulicas (I'm thinking this is likely as the are the most common type) or achatina achatinas. The latter is going only off the tiger stripes so a bit of an amateur guess. Hopefully these pictures are somewhat helpful but I can take more if necessary. I can't seem to catch them showing their tails so I have no idea if they have the V shape that a.achatinas should have. Thanks!   |
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Post by giantsouthamerican2n on Mar 1, 2015 23:10:25 GMT
Those look to be most definitely achantias. I am not sure which species yet but I am looking. Hold on 1 sec.
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Post by giantsouthamerican2n on Mar 1, 2015 23:27:06 GMT
I am pretty sure that those cuties are both Achatina fulica. They look to be just adolescents. I will post some care for them in a second. Where did you find them?
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Post by giantsouthamerican2n on Mar 1, 2015 23:33:54 GMT
Before you use this care sheet I strongly suggest that you do some more research on this forum as I might not be entirely correct on the species that you have because I did a very quick search of all achatina and archachatina species. I am not responsible for any harm done to your snails but this information is highly accurate. Here it is thesnailtrail.webs.com/Achatina%20Fulica%20Care%20Sheet.pdf Nice job with those snails they are absolutely stunning and you are very lucky to have them. Thank you!  |
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Post by starcrazy19 on Mar 2, 2015 0:10:18 GMT
They are most likely fulica, they are definitely not rodatzi. Their skin/shell shape/columella really doesn't sugest a. achatina (tiger snail) at all. But babies can be hard to ID, specially within the same genus |
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Post by giantsouthamerican2n on Mar 2, 2015 0:17:31 GMT
Yes you are right starcrazy19. Dumb me I didn't see the stripes. lol |
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Cashell
Archachatina puylaerti
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Post by Cashell on Mar 2, 2015 3:24:49 GMT
I'm going to make a prediction and go for either Achatina achatina or lissachatina albopicta...  I hope I'm right! |
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Post by robandcath on Mar 2, 2015 10:28:55 GMT
They aren't achatina achatina as they have too much of a pointy shell. They could be some fulica crossbreed x
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moose
Achatina fulica
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Post by moose on Mar 2, 2015 19:11:57 GMT
Oh wow so many replies, thank you everyone! Whatever they are they I think they are very pretty  I also have an A. Fulica Jadatzi (or so I'm told... maybe you lovely people could tell me if I am right with that ID as well?!) for around 3 weeks but at the moment this poor little one lives on his own. I also don't think his shell growth is as good as it can be so I am working on giving him a varied diet and as much cuttlefish bone as he wants (he always seems to be sitting on it). I want to provide him with friends and and I didn't want to put the 3 of them together before I know what type the newcomers are.   Here is another picture of them all together, and also a coin for scale so you can appreciate the size a little better.  |
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Post by starcrazy19 on Mar 2, 2015 19:31:10 GMT
The bigger one is definitely a. fulica 'jadatzi', he looks great, don't see any shell problems!
The little ones are definitely not a. albopicta or a. achatina
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Cashell
Archachatina puylaerti
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Post by Cashell on Mar 2, 2015 19:37:10 GMT
Darn it! I'm sure Tomas Protiva, Polyped or one of those other big breeders could probably ID them in no time! The moderators are also pretty good when it comes onto GALS as well. What do you guys think about the possibility of zanzibarica? (I should probably stop now... I won't win...  ) |
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moose
Achatina fulica
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Post by moose on Mar 2, 2015 19:43:42 GMT
I don't think the pics show very well but he does have a very small crack, or what looks like a small surface scratch, on his shell. His previous owner fed him iceberg lettuce and no calcium so I'm introducing new things and getting some good nutrition into him. Would you say the 3 would be fine to introduce and house together?
Back to the thread topic (sorry admin for the off-topic bit) - I am having another good look on the ID thread and Googling pics. I do think they are a. fulicas, maybe when they grow a little more it will be a little more easy to tell. Or maybe they are crossbreeds as suggested above? I'm rather enjoying myself searching though
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moose
Achatina fulica
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Post by moose on Mar 2, 2015 20:28:11 GMT
This one came out for an explore (or to use his newly acquired "climbing frame"  ) since the last post so I snapped another pic... just ignore the poop I got decorated with in the background there   |
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Post by etana on Mar 3, 2015 8:52:47 GMT
Lol don't worry, we've all seen snail poop The stripy ones aren't Tiger snails, well many have said it already but here's why: The skin texture and eyes don't match, the columella has no distinct colour (both my Tigers have a bright pink stripe there!) and in the last pic you should see some of the tail's V pattern - the tail seems smooth so we're not looking at a Tiger. Some of my baby fulica (who def. aren't cross-breeds) are growing lots of stripes so that's not an impossible one. But I can't say for sure, I think the shell should look rounder if they're fulica? Or maybe it's just the stripes fooling my eyes. It's quite likely that it's safe to put these all in the same tank together, if you've checked carefully that there are no mites and nobody seems ill. Some Achatina want a bit more heating in the tank than others but fulica (which your very nice Jadatzi is ) adapt to different conditions better than the ones who want it warmer, and if you can set up a tank with a warmer and colder end, that also helps with meeting the snails' different preferences. |
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moose
Achatina fulica
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Post by moose on Mar 5, 2015 18:40:37 GMT
Lol don't worry, we've all seen snail poop The stripy ones aren't Tiger snails, well many have said it already but here's why: The skin texture and eyes don't match, the columella has no distinct colour (both my Tigers have a bright pink stripe there!) and in the last pic you should see some of the tail's V pattern - the tail seems smooth so we're not looking at a Tiger. Some of my baby fulica (who def. aren't cross-breeds) are growing lots of stripes so that's not an impossible one. But I can't say for sure, I think the shell should look rounder if they're fulica? Or maybe it's just the stripes fooling my eyes. It's quite likely that it's safe to put these all in the same tank together, if you've checked carefully that there are no mites and nobody seems ill. Some Achatina want a bit more heating in the tank than others but fulica (which your very nice Jadatzi is ) adapt to different conditions better than the ones who want it warmer, and if you can set up a tank with a warmer and colder end, that also helps with meeting the snails' different preferences. Brilliant thanks very much for the info. I've got a heat mat (hooked up to a thermostat) over half of the back of the tub and just monitoring the temps for a day or so before I add them all in |
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Euglandina Rosea x2 
I hope I'm right! 
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) since the last post so I snapped another pic... just ignore the poop I got decorated with in the background there 
