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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 9:33:24 GMT
Hi. Helix pomatia is threatened by continuous habitat destructions and drainage, usually less threatened by commercial collections. Land snails are regularly consumed in the European cuisine (Escargot). It is no secret that many people find snails to be delicious as an appetizer or as a main course. Hunters & Cook wouldn’t think twice about killing it makes you feel sorry for it and I decide to take their home for safety. Stop Helix pomatia hunting ! Snails as Pets ! See pictures & video. Best regards, alexsnail. www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6PoVH5Nt34&feature=youtu.be
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 9:42:21 GMT
My Pet Helix pomatia. Best regards, alexsnail.
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Post by HazelSnail on Apr 30, 2016 17:05:37 GMT
Helix pomatia are beautiful snails
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Post by crucify on May 7, 2016 11:43:09 GMT
pomatias really are lovely, they make great pets. at least with the populations outside of england and in captivity we shouldn't be losing them entirely any time soon. real buggers to breed though, they're like snail pandas
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Post by Liguus on May 7, 2016 13:13:07 GMT
Yeah, I noticed mine don't breed very much. Lots of mating but no egg laying, even with a deep substrate.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 9:39:03 GMT
Hello, I can ship snails to the UK, Europe, and yes, I have successfully shipped to the UK, Europe, on the past. Many people from UK, Europe, got my snails. My email - scr.im/3emvBest regards, alexsnail.
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Post by yoruni on May 9, 2016 17:45:34 GMT
Sadly in my country - Poland, keeping Helix Pomatia as a pet is illegal but there is a lot of snail farms breeding them for food export, so that is a bit confusing for me and I need to research more information about it because I wanted to have them as a pets too. We are top in Helix Pomatia export to France but because people who were selling them collected wild ones in some part of my country they started to be really rare so government put them in Red List of Threatened Species. They are under protection but not full-time protection. It's allowed to collect them from 20 April to 31 May if their shell is over 30 mm. I really love them, as kid I was observing them in my garden and as far I notice there was much easiest to find back then
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Post by Liguus on May 10, 2016 0:02:44 GMT
Wow really? There used to be lots of H. pomatia in Poland, that's where I first saw and collected them as a kid. Didn't know they restricted collection...probably hard to regulate since I could just find them out in the back yard. I'm going back this summer. I honestly think I would just move back to Krakow, but there's too many Liguus fasciatus for me here in the USA. I hope the Arianta arbustorum are still there.
How's the snail market in Poland now? Which snails are relatively easy to buy?
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Post by yoruni on May 10, 2016 4:25:42 GMT
Yes, I noticed that population nearby dropped, like 20 years ago I could find a lot of them in my backyard and last summer where I was visiting my father I saw just a few of them. Yes, you can still find Arianta arbustorum here Liguus fasciatus, they are so pretty Well, The easiest snail to buy is H. Aspera Maxima or Muller - because they are most common in snail farms, so you can order them in kilos... Dead or alive. Some people also sells some AA, l. fulica sp. and some other - we have Polish group @fb where e exchange information, photos and get to know if we have something for sell atm.
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Post by Cashell on May 10, 2016 22:52:51 GMT
LiguusProbably a very stupid question, but you can speak fluent Polish? Not to let the conversation steer too far from helix pomatia snails, but it made me curious.
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Post by Liguus on May 11, 2016 1:33:40 GMT
Yes, I speak it but it takes me a while to write text in polish since I'm not sure about how all the words are spelled.
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Post by barnaclesnail on May 16, 2016 22:01:09 GMT
Edible snails are normally farmed by commercial breeders, and are NOT collected from the wild for the food market, due to quantity issues and the danger of parasitic contamination. So those snails will never be anyone's dinner. Except other animals in the wild, who are not so kind as to freeze them beforehand and will eat them alive. Ever see an opossum eat a snail? Not. Pleasant. And also, not cruel. It's simply the natural order of the ecosystem, which humans are a part of. Personally, I have no problem with people eating snails (or any animal, really) so long as they are killed humanely. That being said, I cannot abide animal mistreatment and prefer snails as pets, thank you very much However, if you are interested in preserving the species, you may be causing more harm than good. Helix pomatia are protected all across Europe and the UK, which means collecting them from the wild is illegal. Furthermore, they are poorer breeders than most species, and may or may not always lay eggs in captivity. So, if you're concerned about the population's survival, please know you could be decimating it irreperably by removing them from their natural habitat and selling them to the pet market. Instead, please consider relocating them to an alternate location if they are truly being threatened by urbanization.
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Post by yoruni on May 17, 2016 16:12:14 GMT
Edible snails are normally farmed by commercial breeders, and are NOT collected from the wild for the food market, due to quantity issues and the danger of parasitic contamination. So those snails will never be anyone's dinner. Except other animals in the wild, who are not so kind as to freeze them beforehand and will eat them alive. Ever see an opossum eat a snail? Not. Pleasant. And also, not cruel. It's simply the natural order of the ecosystem, which humans are a part of. Personally, I have no problem with people eating snails (or any animal, really) so long as they are killed humanely. That being said, I cannot abide animal mistreatment and prefer snails as pets, thank you very much However, if you are interested in preserving the species, you may be causing more harm than good. Helix pomatia are protected all across Europe and the UK, which means collecting them from the wild is illegal. Furthermore, they are poorer breeders than most species, and may or may not always lay eggs in captivity. So, if you're concerned about the population's survival, please know you could be decimating it irreperably by removing them from their natural habitat and selling them to the pet market. Instead, please consider relocating them to an alternate location if they are truly being threatened by urbanization. As I wrote down some posts ago, here in Poland they have no full time protection, they can be collected for 30 day year at may and only if they are bigger then 3cm. When that period end you have to give them back to the wild (even if you are helping injured snail to fully recovery - law never predicted that they would be people like us who wants to help it ) or if you will have special authorization for farm breeding you can keep them for future breeding snails for food (wild genes are better and farm lines grow strongest when it's added in)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 13:33:26 GMT
My snail Helix pomatia.
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Post by Liguus on Jun 1, 2016 14:09:10 GMT
I'm in Krakow, and noticed the population is not as prevalent as it was 10 years ago. I'm surprised my H. pomatia site in the US has a more concentrated population than anything I have seen in the woods in Poland(at the USA site you can collect about 100 in a few minutes), but then again that site is the only H. pomatia site I've seen in the entire USA.
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Post by yoruni on Jun 1, 2016 20:00:24 GMT
I'm in Krakow, and noticed the population is not as prevalent as it was 10 years ago. I'm surprised my H. pomatia site in the US has a more concentrated population than anything I have seen in the woods in Poland(at the USA site you can collect about 100 in a few minutes), but then again that site is the only H. pomatia site I've seen in the entire USA. There is not too much them now Makes me sad a lot. I was near Warsaw not long time ago and I found on thirsty one (in bad area, just dust, roads and farming places with less shadow or water) so I took him for some rehab - he spend 2 days in wet moss with some walking into small plate of water where he like to sit for 1-3h. On same walk I saw man who threw out from his garden one poor guy - he fly up 2 metr and far 3 metr and hard hit street. I rushed to him but his shell was badly broken, hoped it may be reconstructed but some part sadly priced his inertial organs I went to this guy trying to stay calm and made long lecture about H. pomatia, that he is under protection, that he could just collect them and release in field near by - not even 2 minutes away. This man had truly no idea he just caused pain, slow death, broke law - he though that snail will just stand up and go away... or change shell... In good will he give me second one snail i requested from him when I saw it already in this man hand ready to throw.... Now I have two H. pomatia under protection, breaking a bit law, but I want then to get some strength before I release them in better area for them. They eat nice, spending a lot of time in moss in water plate and on calcium. Wish to keep them 'cause they are sweet but well :/
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Post by yoruni on Jul 7, 2016 8:15:16 GMT
Alex and Max do not mate. I am sad :< No pomatia kids
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 15:36:52 GMT
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Post by astana on Jul 15, 2016 1:41:36 GMT
Beautiful photos!
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Post by witchpig on Jul 26, 2016 11:11:41 GMT
Helix pomatia are beautiful snails, wondering if captivity is legal in Canada, where I live. I'll have to look into that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 11:11:53 GMT
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Post by sarahtisch on Sept 5, 2016 0:06:59 GMT
Awesome thread! I love the pictures of everybody's Helix pomatia. I'm about to get two of them and was wondering what they like. If there are any specific things they like to climb on or play with. And tips and tricks that I should know! I can't wait to welcome my new snail babies in about two weeks--their names will be Vape and Zero. I'll post pictures when I can.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 8:34:51 GMT
My Cepaea hortensis.
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