gluckuk
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Post by gluckuk on Oct 28, 2019 21:41:15 GMT
Some of you may know that I live in Tennessee. Currently Chattanooga. There are no native species of amber snails that I'm aware of, but I still see them from time to time in gardens and schools where plants have been imported. I was walking around the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga on a rainy day last saturday, watching my step to make sure I didn't squish anything, and I saw these two rascals on a sidewalk, exploring during the rain. They almost got stepped on! You can't tell in the pictures, but these guys are tiny! like smaller than a BB pellet. Yet they aren't shy. They didnt' even retreat into their shells when I picked them up. My questions: What are they? What conditions do they need to survive?
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Post by snerdahmik on Oct 29, 2019 15:17:55 GMT
I can't see a picture.
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Post by littlegoldsnail on Oct 29, 2019 18:46:15 GMT
They are adorable, those are definitely babies, I’m a little unsure about what kind though.
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Post by snerdahmik on Oct 30, 2019 1:54:45 GMT
I think the wifi I was connected to earlier blocked the image. I was in a public place. Sorry!
They look a lot like chittenango amber snails, but that can't be right because those are endemic to new york. Maybe they could've snuck over to TN on a plant somehow? I'll keep looking for another possible match, I doubt that's the real answer.
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gluckuk
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Post by gluckuk on Oct 30, 2019 3:19:21 GMT
I think the wifi I was connected to earlier blocked the image. I was in a public place. Sorry! They look a lot like chittenango amber snails, but that can't be right because those are endemic to new york. Maybe they could've snuck over to TN on a plant somehow? I'll keep looking for another possible match, I doubt that's the real answer. I don't believe there are any ambersnails endemic to TN, so these must be hitchhikers of some kind! They were near some shrubbery the university recently planted.
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Post by wolf on Oct 30, 2019 9:20:23 GMT
Hi, I'm sorry, but it's very very difficult to identify an amber snail species by just a picture, and if they are juvenile, it's nearly impossible. Even if the specimens are adult, in most cases a dissection (morphology of the genital apparatus) is necessary. Kind regards: wolf
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gluckuk
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Post by gluckuk on Oct 30, 2019 17:37:06 GMT
Hi, I'm sorry, but it's very very difficult to identify an amber snail species by just a picture, and if they are juvenile, it's nearly impossible. Even if the specimens are adult, in most cases a dissection (morphology of the genital apparatus) is necessary. Kind regards: wolf
is there any way to narrow it down? Sub family? Region of the world endemic? I need to get as specific as I can without harming them, I'm planning to use this for a documentary. I've found a slightly older specimin if that helps.
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Post by snerdahmik on Nov 1, 2019 3:20:48 GMT
Hi, I'm sorry, but it's very very difficult to identify an amber snail species by just a picture, and if they are juvenile, it's nearly impossible. Even if the specimens are adult, in most cases a dissection (morphology of the genital apparatus) is necessary. Kind regards: wolf
is there any way to narrow it down? Sub family? Region of the world endemic? I need to get as specific as I can without harming them, I'm planning to use this for a documentary. I've found a slightly older specimen if that helps. Post another picture! I'll try to help if I can, it's worth a shot. It does look a lot like the species I mentioned, but to be safe, you should measure the snail from it's shell opening to the apex, the shell width, and take pictures from multiple angles. That would help a lot to identify it properly.
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Post by wolf on Nov 1, 2019 11:16:56 GMT
Hi gluckuk, sorry, but it will be very very difficult to get a reasonably solid/valid (!) determination. Don't worry: even in official scientific papers sometimes only the family (in this case: Succineidae) or genus is named. In MARQUEZ, P. & K.E. PEREZ (2015): Picture guide of some Tennessee snails & slugs for survey inspectors -- www.npdn.org/system/files/WPDN%20Snail%20Guide%20COPY%20TENNESSEE.pdfthey write: "Succineidae spec. of. No specialist available for this group." The only Succineidae species from Tennessee I know is Succinea greerii (the Dryland Ambersnail), but there might be more species of this family in this state. Best of luck: wolf
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