keeping species together

[sam]

Is there anywhere on here that tell me the different species that can be kept together?

[LisaLQ]

I'd be interested in this too - especially fulica compatibles. I know dimis/two tones can go in with margies as they both like it warmer and wetter than fulicas. And retics like the same as fulicas. Tigers like it warm and wet too apparently.

But other than that, I have no idea. I've got space for one or two more snails in my fulica tank, and I'd love to know what could go in with them.

[sezzy5889]

I think any species like, immaculata, iradelei, smithii, retis etc do fine together, Two-tones seem to do better in warmer wetter conditions, but would have to be carefull in with margies or tigers as thye are a lot smaller, margies and tigers do great together although tigers are much lazier, lol
I think fulica should be on their own although some do take to different environments well, thye do prefere dryer, cooler conditions than other species

[Paul]

Not comprehensive but some rules of thumb...

petsnails.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=habitat&action=display&n=1&thread=4769

[section8angel]

Wow I forgot all about that one lol.

My margies are in with my two-tones, my smithii are with my iredalei, my fulica are on their own and then my retis, rodatzi and panthera are together.

The margies, two-tones and iredalei like it warmer and wetter, the smithii don't seem to mind either way so they're happy being in with the iredalei.
My fulica like it drier but don't seem to mind about temp (they have actually been a bit more active since it got warmer), they're on their own just 'cause it's easier lol.
I haven't managed to try different conditions with the others (retis, panthera & rodatzi) as their tank is harder to keep humid but they don't seem to mind. It's kept a bit wetter than the fulica but drier than the others lol
Before the tank swap though I had kept the retis and panthera with my fulica and they were all fine.

I haven't had any problems with mixing small and large snails and have only had a shell rasping problem once when my fulica were smaller. I do remember a few people on here though saying about problems with the small and large mix, and Paul said in that other thread about them hanging off each other.

*Mumbles on*

[CelticCraftress]

I actually thought of doing this too, the only problem I see with it (as long as the snails want a simular enviroment) is that if they lay eggs, it might be difficult to figure out who layed them.

But the idea is neat though! It would be almost like setting up an aquarium of fish, but having selections of different snail species snailing about. To be honest, most of the tropical fish you see are from all over the world anyway. Actually most are from Indian water I believe, but im getting off topic! Im thinking about doing it, but I will probably only have one of each species. If I do it I plan to make it so pretty that it's going in the livingroom to share with all. ;D

I think when I was considering it, I had it organized my species wish-list (probably your actual list in this case) into enviroment catagories. Something like:

-very humid, heated
-regular humidity, heated
-regular humidity, unheated (local snails for example)
etc.

I also pondered if you could, if the aquarium was big enough, have one side be heated and one side not. So, the little guys can simply choose their favorite side. And have the food and shallow pool in the middle.

Well, there's my 2 cents.

[LisaLQ]

Hmm well I've got another two snails I'm interested in, not sure whether I'm getting them yet as have only emailed today *lol*

My set up in the future will be four of these big tubs:

1. 2 margie ovums, one iredalei if I get some, and possibly Columbia (ovum/suturalis cross)
2. Margie suturalis (Magenta), albino adult, other iredalei and my two dodgy dimis
3. My tiger tank, for Brixton time - 2 adults.
4. Fulicas x 3, Monty the retic.

Now there's room in tank 4 for one or two more - but as mentionned, if I get these two snails, they would crossbreed and I wouldn't know which was what.

So lord knows what I should do with my plan now, but I think it's going to have to be a case of not breeding from these two new ones - and therefore ditching all eggs out of tank 4.

I do have 4 spare storage tanks (one hinged lid like Paul's, one slightly bigger with silver clips, the two slightly bigger again clear ones from Do It All) and one Tommy tank style one. I guess another tank could be an option. Or 4 *pmsl*

[Ryan]

How many snails would one put in say a 35 gallon tank then? surely it depends on they`re size? I would have thought for example 15 snails in that tank are ok when they`re small but move them to a larger tank as they get larger . As long as it doesn`t look cluttered in there, they`ve got room to explore then thats ok . Am i ok with this train of thought ?? please pm me or post and i`ll check later . ta....

[Paul]

I always go off adult size, but if you're willing to keep moving up in size of tanks as they grow or split them into more tanks your philosophy sounds fine. I wrote a calculator to attempt to answer the question:

www.petsnails.co.uk/snail_calc.php

[fleurcirocco]

Hiya,
As a newbie, I have a quick question regarding keeping species together.
I've not got snails, but hoping to keep some soon..
All the snail names are new to me, so I wanted to check... Can someone please tell me which species of snail can be kept together (comfortabley), without breeding?
Many thanks.
Sophie.

[Paul]

you may have missed this earlier in the thread, it doesn't exactly answer your question but...

petsnails.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=habitat&action=display&n=1&thread=4769

The only way to guarantee no crossbreeding is to keep snails of differemt genera together such as Archachatina with Achatina. The problem is that optimal conditions for one may not be for the other.

West African Achatinas like Achatina achatina do well with Archachatina, probably because they come from the same region.

East african Achatina like fulica and immaculata MAY need slightly drier, cooler conditions than West African Archachatina. I emphasise may because fulica for example are considered invasive and seem to manage to survive all over Africa.

[Paul]

Further to that, mixing subgenera should be ok. So you can mix Achatina achatina with Achatina fulica, because the former is subgenus achatina and the latter is subgenus lissachatina.

[fleurcirocco]

Thanks so much Paul, that's very helpful.
So, for example, I could keep a margie with an Achatina achatina? They have the same requirements, and wouldn't breed, right?
Thanks again.
Sophie.

[Paul]

yep, that's basically it

[Kevin]

apparantly Achatina reticulata arent able to hybridize with any other species either, so keeping them with other Achatina species should be fine also.

[thefool]

Can I keep an Achatina achatina in my tank with my Achatina fulica? The tank is about 3 foot by 1 and I have two adult fulica in there at the moment. I'm not concerned about breeding as I freeze the eggs as soon as I find them anyway.
Thanks

[Dusk]

thefool - there'd be room, but they don't need exactly the same conditions, so you'd have to find a happy medium that they all were comfortable with, heat and humidity-wise.

[vallery]

I've learned that my Heath snails do better in my Cepaea tank then they do on their own even though the Heath snails are suppose to have a drier environment.

Also not to keep adult Pleurodonte isabella in with my Cepaea and Heath snails as the adult Pleurodonte isabella were eating the eggs.

Even with the adult Pleurodonte isabella I need to keep an eye out for eggs as they will eat their own as well. So I remove the eggs and let the babies hatch in the Cepaea/Heath tank and then put the babies into the adult Pleurodonte isabella tank. This works out very well.

I am not sure if this is the same case with different Pleurodonte species, eating eggs in their tanks. I am hoping there is someone that can sell me some different species of Pleurodonte, so it would be helpful to know.

vallery