Val
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Post by Val on Jan 6, 2006 19:10:33 GMT
Yes I agree with Sarah, try the heat remedy, anything is worth a try now. Put him in a little container on his own with some nice deep moss or something and put the container somewhere really warm, give him some food and just wait and see for a while. The warmer the better after all these guys originate from Africa and it must get pretty warm there at times.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 6, 2006 19:14:45 GMT
my dimis started eating and growing after i raised the temperature a lot and made it wetter
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Post by Val on Jan 6, 2006 19:21:02 GMT
Yes I did the same with my dimi tank and they have put out a growth spurt as well. Their shells still look a bit rough though almost as though they are rasping on each other!!!
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Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 6, 2006 19:28:41 GMT
yes mine stopped growing for a couple of days this week and i realised the because the weather outside has got colder so did the tank even with a heat mat, so i turned on the heat lamp as well and the tank has soon heated up, so i hope they start again
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Post by LisaLQ on Jan 6, 2006 21:37:10 GMT
Well mine are slap bang next to a radiator, have had extra water (much to the fulicas disapproval) and this house is like the Bahamas, and mine wont eat. I doubt Justin will either, apparently he's retracted right back now - so far in he's nearly "round the bend" as Kathy put it when I rang her earlier. Incidentally - my two dimis aren't growing new shell (despite having cuttlefish in there), but their mantle has come down a bit - so it looks like they have new shell but it's flesh. Methinks they dont like it wet after all
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2006 10:10:33 GMT
hmm....do you think I should put my immaculata in a small tank, with capillary matting, on their own, next to a heat mat???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2006 10:15:59 GMT
perhaps, they dont like being sent out and going to different places. maybe theyre so sensetive that going to a new environment scares them or something? I hadn't thought to mention this till I re-read this thread and saw what you said Mike. My dimis weren't posted. They were taken from their tank, put into a small tub with some of their substrate and food and brought straight to me the same day (which was also a warm day). They then went straight in with my baby fulica, with their food and some of their substrate. They didn't even travel that far either, so it wasn't a long journey. Everyone who has "ill" dimis, were they posted to you? Mike has said his were and that they were fine until they were sent to him. I assume they all were as they're in many different places, but I don't know where everyone lives and who they live near, hence me asking lol. I know it's probably a long shot, but obviously it could be a factor as it has been mentioned before? Just a quick thing also about when I saw the blistering on mine. I hadn't touched their skin. All I touched was their shell, so does that take the "something on my skin reacting" idea away from mine? so are your dimi's fine Sian?
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Post by KathyM on Jan 7, 2006 13:34:58 GMT
my dimis started eating and growing after i raised the temperature a lot and made it wetter I do appreciate your advice, and I'm trying not to get frustrated here, but what do you think I have been doing? Left him alone in a cool tank with no food? We've done all this as you know, and as I have posted repeatedly.
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Post by section8angel on Jan 7, 2006 13:35:56 GMT
Yes. They eat pretty well (not as much as others but they're not thin) and are nearly as active as my fulica (which are very active). When they're sleeping they do like to hide well like other people have said theirs do but most the time I don't have to wake them up, they just come out on their own. The only "bad" things are that they're growing -really- slowley and their shells look slightly rough. But they don't feel rough, they only look it, so that bit isn't that bad. They're no where near the same as these ill/weak/something else ones. They look different to them too. Mine still have their stipes and they're bigger than Lisa's. I don't know what's going on there Could it be mine are ok because they came to me in a less stressful way? Or have I just been hella lucky? Could they go like this at a later date? I've had them since September (I could find an exact date if needed lol) so I'm hoping they would have gone like it before now if they were going too.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 7, 2006 14:03:27 GMT
My dimi/immac off anneth has even started to grow since,
and sorry Kathy, be we can't see whats going on so we have to make sure you understand
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Post by LisaLQ on Jan 7, 2006 14:13:05 GMT
Oooh Sarah, that was a bit off. Anyhoo - some good news and a question. Question first - is it normal for snail to have their body protude past the shell where the new growth should be? Eg: I thought he had new growth but it's his body. Good news comes in picture form. It says a lot about how Gary is today: Green poo = must be eating. No doubt he'll be back to the starvation diet shortly though
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Post by KathyM on Jan 7, 2006 14:17:46 GMT
My dimi/immac off anneth has even started to grow since, and sorry Kathy, be we can't see whats going on so we have to make sure you understand No I think it's the other way round Sarah. I've posted repeatedly about what we've done and how we're trying to help him, it's you that's not understanding, but apology accepted for the patronising posts. Please try to remember I'm not some numpty who doesn't know anything - we've managed to follow Paul's detailed and difficult advice, so I think that shows we're clever enough to realise he needs warmth and moisture.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 7, 2006 15:53:09 GMT
btw yes it is normal, thats how they make new shell growth, the skin protrudes a bit then it dries into shell etc etc, it's a good sign
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2006 15:56:29 GMT
Oooh Sarah, that was a bit off. Anyhoo - some good news and a question. Question first - is it normal for snail to have their body protude past the shell where the new growth should be? Eg: I thought he had new growth but it's his body. Good news comes in picture form. It says a lot about how Gary is today: Green poo = must be eating. No doubt he'll be back to the starvation diet shortly though thats good, at least yours isnt retracted. ahhhhh i went to look at mine today and one was really retracted and wasnt moving I think he's gonna die soon The other one is fine though...i put him and the baby margie in a capillary matting humid warm tank. its not fair my favourite species. Maybe the stress of being sent all the way from italy in the cold was too much.
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Post by felix93 on Jan 7, 2006 16:05:34 GMT
Lisa, can you move the dimis into the bath room? It's only a suggestion. I put mine in the bathroom where the heating is pretty warm (I know your dimis tank parked just near the radiator) and also it is pretty humid (with the steam). It might worth a try?
BTW Great to hear Gary is better.
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Post by section8angel on Jan 7, 2006 16:41:32 GMT
Actually that is a good idea. (I don't mean to sound like you don't have good ideas or anything Felix lol please don't take it that way!) We know you've said they're next to the heater, but when I had BA he wouldn't come out even when he was next to the heater, but when I put him in the bathroom (in the bath to start with) bam! He was out so quickly if I hadn't known he was a margie I would have thought he was a giant fulica lol. The green poo is a good sign though I'm keeping everything crossed for you guys and everyone else with ill ones. I feel bad posting about mine being healthy, it's not fair when you guys are going through this Mike - so sorry At least the other one is fine though
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Post by Val on Jan 7, 2006 17:55:43 GMT
My dimi/immac off anneth has even started to grow since, and sorry Kathy, be we can't see whats going on so we have to make sure you understand No I think it's the other way round Sarah. I've posted repeatedly about what we've done and how we're trying to help him, it's you that's not understanding, but apology accepted for the patronising posts. Please try to remember I'm not some numpty who doesn't know anything - we've managed to follow Paul's detailed and difficult advice, so I think that shows we're clever enough to realise he needs warmth and moisture. Hey Kathy, that is a little unfair I think, we are all trying our level best to help in anyway we can, all right we are repeating ourselves in the process but at least we ARE trying!! Val
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Post by LisaLQ on Jan 7, 2006 18:46:24 GMT
Yeah, I'd try the bathroom idea, but both of my bathrooms have extractor fan thingies built into the walls, and therefore they're cold and draughty (sp? drafty?). Probably the only part of the house that is! *lol*
I have noticed that all my snails do better when their tanks aren't stood on the floor - what with heat rising etc - and since moving them up off the floor, they've come round a little. I know it cant have been just that though, as they only moved onto the floor when I started stacking them a week or two back. It might just be one of Gary's good days, we'll see.
Sally's not eating, even when woken/bathed, she just comes straight off the food, and climbs back up onto a leaf on the fake plant. She's getting thinner still.
But fingers crossed Gary is improving - the body showing where the new shell should be is still worrying me - none of my others have that much showing, and there's definitely no new shell there - not even clear stuff.
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Post by Val on Jan 7, 2006 18:50:00 GMT
Oh dear, doesn't it make you feel so helpless!!!! I wish so much I could come up with a brainwave.
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Post by LisaLQ on Jan 7, 2006 19:33:48 GMT
Dnot worry - everyone here's been fab with advice and help. I guess sometimes things just go wrong. But my two keep proving me wrong, I've been expecting to come down in a morning and find them dead, but they always pull it together for a short while, then do it again *lol*
I hope that fleshy bit turns into shell. Gary has definitely put some weight on too, perhaps I'm just wishful thinking though. Sally's shrunk. She's not retracted yet though, which is always good.
Eeeeh they're a right pain in the bum. Love 'em though! ;D
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Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 7, 2006 19:39:35 GMT
I'm pretty sure the fleshy bit will turn into shell, you just have to give it time to harden, as long as he doesn't retract it should be fine :-)
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Post by section8angel on Jan 7, 2006 20:07:29 GMT
Lisa, I've just seen one of my dimis with the same thing. Except it was only half skin/body as the other half was shell Here's my Darla with the blistening. It isn't as bad as when I first picked her up as it took me a while to get the camera to focus rofl. I hadn't even touched her skin again though. All I did was touch her shell.
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Post by LisaLQ on Jan 7, 2006 20:42:50 GMT
What a pretty shell! You know, I still think the blistering must be a stress reaction. When my dimis are out and about (rare but for the last day they have been) and I pick them up, they're fine. If they're just clung onto the roof/plant, they blister when I (carefully) remove them. Very strange!
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Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 7, 2006 20:45:11 GMT
try touching it, i don't know whether it was the same thing but when i picked my dimi up he sort of did the same thing but when i touched it or put him back down it went normal again, i think it's just because they have nothing to hold onto
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Post by LisaLQ on Jan 7, 2006 20:54:07 GMT
I've found that mine go back to normal once they're back in their tank. But coming into contact with my hand makes no difference - it just stays blistered.
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