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Post by luciebella on Jul 14, 2011 10:59:56 GMT
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Post by SojMad on Jul 18, 2011 5:13:32 GMT
Hello! Did they have those white patches on them when they arrived? It looks like other snails (or them selves) has rasped on their shells, but if you feed them good, healthy food and calcium, those white patches should disappear as they grow.  Haven't they grown at all on this month? A. iredalei is a really fast growing species of snail. What do you feed them? I'll show how much my iredaleis grew in two month (from December 7, 2010, to February 2, 2011). In the first picture my snail were probably in the same size as your snails, give or take a few millimeters.. Attachments:
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Post by SojMad on Jul 18, 2011 5:14:32 GMT
Feb 2, 2011. Attachments:
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Post by SojMad on Jul 18, 2011 5:18:42 GMT
And your snailies are super cute, by the way! ;D
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poekai
Achatina fulica
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Post by poekai on Aug 7, 2011 19:41:02 GMT
my fulica had a few of those white patches too when he was a little smaller. What is it and why does it appear?
Ive had him since he was little and I always have fed him healthy diverse food and he always had a cuttle bone which he uses a lot.
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coyote
Archachatina papyracea
Cochleas ego amo
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Post by coyote on Aug 8, 2011 20:31:30 GMT
Sometimes shell problems happen because of genetics, so even when the snail is in the optimal habitat and eats the best foods, sometimes it can still have shell problems.
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poekai
Achatina fulica
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Post by poekai on Aug 9, 2011 18:23:21 GMT
aha okay, but he only had this when he was younger. now they dissapear in his growth
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Post by luciebella on Aug 11, 2011 12:09:43 GMT
Hello :-) one of them is 3 millimeters bigger, the other hasn't grown at all! They seemed to be unhappy when they arrived, they were starving and really inactive, one was so far retracted he hardly ever came out, but lots of warm showers and tlc encouraged him out and he's doing better. Had them since may/June though, just not convinced they are going to grow!
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Post by SojMad on Aug 23, 2011 18:54:16 GMT
Hello :-) one of them is 3 millimeters bigger, the other hasn't grown at all! They seemed to be unhappy when they arrived, they were starving and really inactive, one was so far retracted he hardly ever came out, but lots of warm showers and tlc encouraged him out and he's doing better. Had them since may/June though, just not convinced they are going to grow! It sounds weird that both of them aren't growing.  It shouldn't affect them so much that they were in bad shape when you got them though. My four adult A. iredaleis were also in extremely poor condition when I brought them home. The seller wasn't too interested in snails, and he hadn't even noticed that his iredaleis had given birth to a lot of babies. Almost all of the babies had died, but I managed to find some still alive. It took hours before they came out, and they ate and ate and ate, and grew fast. But all snails are different of course, and your's might be a bit more sensitive than mine. I really hope that they are healthy and that they'll start growing for you. It's not funny when your animals aren't growing as they should, I know how it feels.  What is 'tlc'? |
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foghog
Achatina immaculata
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Post by foghog on Aug 23, 2011 19:45:01 GMT
tlc=tender loving care I'd imagine. yes, all snails are different if you have raised batches of egg clusters, you will always notice some grow faster then others always. there are many factors so it is hard to say which apply and which do not...it is a natural thing though. I personally believe some peoples success and such has a lot to do with microclimate inside the habitat, as well as substrate, food types but the biggest one is always going to be genetics imo. as for the substrate, and snails, people tend not to realize that snails take nutrients from the substrate they crawl across as well as their food. when you replace natural ground with like coir or moss/peat/etc, you are removing that in many ways, so you sorta should supplement it, or mix your substrate with ground as well. but this all depends on the species of the snail in question as well. the very best thing I would always suggest to anyone raising snails is number one know your snail....understand the microclimates and environments it thrives in. do research and see if it lives on rock faces, in deep forests, eats a lot of farmed crops and grows out of control there...obviously if you can duplicate the environment where it grows out of control, and is healthy that is good for your snails. is the soil there rich in nutrients, is it loamy, is it rocky, what type of rocks/etc. the heat, the moisture content all of that. That is how you are going to want to have your vivarium. but of course if someone sends you snails, they may just be genetically inferior. there are runts in every litter so to speak. just as humans get genetics that make them predisposed to say heart failure, all creatures get the same sometimes.
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Post by SojMad on Aug 23, 2011 22:43:25 GMT
Thank you.  Yes, I know that some babies in a litter will be smaller than others - the thing I thought was weird was that BOTH babies aren't growing as they should.  It would sound more normal to me if only one of them was smaller. My snails are growing both much and well, and I only keep them on coir. I don't mix their substrate with anything else than some crushed oyster shells - which I mix in just because I know that they are eating from their substrate too. I give them fresh sphagnum moss that I've harvested in the forest by myself, and I feed them with various fruits, vegetables, spirulina and now and then some animal protein lika gammarus and fish flakes. My snails have never even tasted lettuce in my care. Their calcium sources are cuttlebone and powdered oyster shells. It seems to work very well with my snailies. But I wouldn't recommend people to put in rocks in their terrariums/aquariums just because rocks are a part of snails natural habitats - in the nature snails don't have glass ceilings to climb on and let go off. Now that you talk about nutritious soil and such, I have some organic soil that comes directly from the worms (I've bought it to feed to my hermit crabs, it's a very good food supplement for them) and just realised that I could feed my snails some of that too. ^^ Nice, now I have something new to give them. But to return to luciebellas iredalei-babies; I must say that she really has had bad luck if she got TWO babies that won't grow normally. I hope that it's just something temporary and that they'll start growing properly for her soon. |
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Post by serenesarong on Dec 28, 2011 2:04:57 GMT
Hi I have two iredaleis that have not grown much since I got them... I posted on here a few weeks back because I was concerned and was told that they don't get particularly big, and can actually halt their growth if their environment changes i.e. a change of tank or presumably being transported by post from one place to another... Since making the post, my ireds have started to grow so I guess they just needed a bit of time to get used to their new environment... keep an eye on them is my advice and wait a few months to see what they do...
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saki114
Achatina immaculata
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Post by saki114 on Dec 29, 2011 15:14:08 GMT
Hi I have two iredaleis that have not grown much since I got them... I posted on here a few weeks back because I was concerned and was told that they don't get particularly big, and can actually halt their growth if their environment changes i.e. a change of tank or presumably being transported by post from one place to another... Since making the post, my ireds have started to grow so I guess they just needed a bit of time to get used to their new environment... keep an eye on them is my advice and wait a few months to see what they do... I agree |
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rosiesnail2
Achatina immaculata
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Post by rosiesnail2 on Jan 20, 2012 10:27:43 GMT
cute! Yes, i'd just keep feeding them lots of food and calcium and see what happens!
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It shouldn't affect them so much that they were in bad shape when you got them though. My four adult A. iredaleis were also in extremely poor condition when I brought them home. The seller wasn't too interested in snails, and he hadn't even noticed that his iredaleis had given birth to a lot of babies. Almost all of the babies had died, but I managed to find some still alive. It took hours before they came out, and they ate and ate and ate, and grew fast. 
It would sound more normal to me if only one of them was smaller. 