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Nov 12, 2011 13:05:53 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 12, 2011 13:05:53 GMT
I wanted to post in the breeding section.. but I couldn't find how to sorry! I was shocked to find about 400 eggs today because I never saw my snails mating lol I went to clean out the snail enclosure in the garden today and then I discovered loads of white eggs I'm so happpy.. I just wish I had been more prepared. I think that the new snails I purchased about 2 months ago must have been carrying the eggs already because I didnt see any mating. I have put the eggs in a plastic storage Tupperware box with some fresh compost at the bottom and then I added some of the compost that the eggs were already in, I spray it so it's quite wet. I've put 4 airholes in the lid of the tub and i've put it in my wardrobe. what else do I need to do? Please reply quickly
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Nov 12, 2011 14:52:35 GMT
Post by axoloa on Nov 12, 2011 14:52:35 GMT
Hi, it depends realy what snaild yoru talking about If their Achatina fulicas, then the soil dosent need to be to wet, just a little damp. Other than that, all thats left do do is wait nalthough i would also put a few shavings of cuttle fish in with them, as when they hatch, they seak calcium sources before they even touch vegetables or fruit (they will eat their own egg shells first)
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Nov 12, 2011 20:05:20 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 12, 2011 20:05:20 GMT
they are achatina fulicas if the soil is wet they will be okay still right? .. but I don't need to spray them daily? How long do they take to hatch? I only clean the substrate for my snails monthly so they could have been laid at any time since the middle of october. When they hatch, I will move them into one of those plastic carriers you can get for pets I have a large one. If they are not achatina fulicas, they could belong to my two Achatina reticulatas.. but they are only just turned 10 months, and I've read this is about when they reach sexually maturity in that species. if they are achatina reticulatas how should they be kept? thanks for your reply
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Nov 12, 2011 20:20:25 GMT
Post by axoloa on Nov 12, 2011 20:20:25 GMT
Hi, Achatina fulicas and reticulatas can be kept in pretty much the same conditions. reticulata just like the substrait slighly more damp than the fulicas and they enjoy a slightly warmer atmospheer (though this is not essensial). Achatina fulica and reticulata eggs take around the same lengh of time to hatch (usualy 10-15 days). So my guess is that your eggs were laid during this month or in the last couple of days of October (unless its an infertile batch wich is very rare for these species). If you dont want to be stuck with a bunch of babies that you cant sell off then you would probabaly be best to but the full batch up for bids on ebay, although this may not be the best idea actualy since you dont know if their dew to hatch tomorrow or in 14 days.... Also dosent help that you dont know witch species they are :/ If these are reticulata however then I cant see you having any problems selling these of. If their not albino reticulata, then I for one would be very interested in buying 2 or 3 of them from you, as i dont yet own the non albino fleshed reticulata
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Nov 12, 2011 21:05:51 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 12, 2011 21:05:51 GMT
haha nope sorry they would be the albino reticulata lol but I personally think they will be fulica. Wow 10-15 days I think they are fertile one of them got squished when i was picking them out individually it was soo sad and it looked like a snail inside so i think they might hatch very soon. is it difficult to sell the little fulica snails? because they are going to carry on breeding and I need to be sure I can get homes or pet shops will take them, or i will have to seperate my snailies
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Nov 12, 2011 21:31:40 GMT
Post by axoloa on Nov 12, 2011 21:31:40 GMT
Lol it is quiet difficult to sell fulicas. You may get lucky but the chances are slim... Personaly I would place an add on ebay for the price of postage and leave the postage section as free... sell them as, up to 10 Achatina fulicas (something like that). Even this way, you will find it hard to get buyers. You may be able to find a few different pet shops that will take a small groupe of these of your hands for free when their about 3 or 4 month old... If you realy dont want to come across this problem again, I would check the substrait for more eggs every 2-3 days and freze any eggs you find. I wouldent do that to the ones you have at the moment, as it seems cruel at such a later stage in their development... If this is the first batch of eggs you have came across then be ready for your second to come sometime very soon... Both parents lay a nest of eggs when they have mated :/ Sorry if this all sounds taunting and bad news for you, but im just trying to be honest with you..
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Nov 13, 2011 8:17:51 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 13, 2011 8:17:51 GMT
don't worry honesty is always helpful .. I knew they would eventually breed and I'd have to deal with that I think they have laid all their eggs for the moment, there were about 400 + eggs. Good idea! I will put them on eBay.. and I have joined a few websites where people sell snails. If I could keep them all I would, but I don't think my mom would appreciate it.. she already complain about 5 snails do you breed your snails? or do you freeze the eggs?
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Nov 13, 2011 8:35:02 GMT
Post by Greta on Nov 13, 2011 8:35:02 GMT
Id freeze them but I do try to breed my garden snails so I can make different combanations especially cepaea nemo and hortensis now I have about 100 babies crawling happily and growing quickly next spring when they grow up bigger im going to pick out the the best looking ones and let go the rest to the wild because there is hardly any snails in my area and I need to build up the population especially helix aspersa and cepaea hortensis anyway slightly off topic you have gal snail so you can't let them go in the wild so it's best to check for eggs at least every 2 days and freeze them unless you want to sell them
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Nov 13, 2011 14:04:46 GMT
Post by axoloa on Nov 13, 2011 14:04:46 GMT
I do breed snails yes. I have several species of snail and slug but most of them are a little below breeding age and should be ready to lay their first batches in late spring next year. Im guilty as charged for breeding my Fulica. I dont do this so I can sell them, I just enjoy watching them. Need allot of space for them though. If your keeping such a large quantity then you should be ready to reserve a room in your house just for keeping fulica enclosures. I never freez my eggs when I cant keep them. I usualy try to sell the fresh batch on ebay on bidding from a 99p starting bid. I leave this auction open for only 3 days, then if their not sold I crush them and mix them with mashed banana (exelent calcium sourse for your snails). No doubt in my mind that not all snail keepers would agree with that theory and/or would think it was wrong. 400 is very good. on adverage a single Fulica will lay about 300 eggs. Personaly if you found these eggs in the same nest then I would definitly expect more to come from the other parent. Dont mean to scare you or anything but it has been known for Fulica to lay anything as low as 30 up to as high as 1000. Only in rare cases would you get so many thought, and certainly not when its your snails first lay
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Nov 13, 2011 19:43:34 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 13, 2011 19:43:34 GMT
Id freeze them but I do try to breed my garden snails so I can make different combanations especially cepaea nemo and hortensis now I have about 100 babies crawling happily and growing quickly next spring when they grow up bigger im going to pick out the the best looking ones and let go the rest to the wild because there is hardly any snails in my area and I need to build up the population especially helix aspersa and cepaea hortensis anyway slightly off topic you have gal snail so you can't let them go in the wild so it's best to check for eggs at least every 2 days and freeze them unless you want to sell them I think I might have to freeze them or get my mom too because i dont think I could. I would happily have 100's of snailies around my bedroom but that will have to wait until I'm older. Wow you have different species of garden snail? I've only heard of helix aspera
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Nov 13, 2011 19:53:29 GMT
Post by catwoman on Nov 13, 2011 19:53:29 GMT
I missed some eggs in the summer and now have over 100 baby Land snails that I am desperate to find homes for. I now have four tanks in my dining room, and I need more space for them. Perhaps keep five eggs, but no more. Honestly, lots of snails are hard, hard work. And they need lots of food.
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Nov 13, 2011 19:54:36 GMT
Post by Greta on Nov 13, 2011 19:54:36 GMT
Only 3 nothing much really lol there's a snail called cepaea nemoralis and cepae hortensis both look the same really but cepaea hortensis are smaller than the nemoralis and have White lip on the shell while nemoralis have a brown lip that's the only difference I wouldn't mind freezing the eggs actually it's better than freezing a baby snail because the baby inside it won't feel any pain unless it's going to hatch very soon but if it's not then it wouldn't know whats just happened when you freeze them
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Nov 13, 2011 19:55:50 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 13, 2011 19:55:50 GMT
I do breed snails yes. I have several species of snail and slug but most of them are a little below breeding age and should be ready to lay their first batches in late spring next year. Im guilty as charged for breeding my Fulica. I dont do this so I can sell them, I just enjoy watching them. Need allot of space for them though. If your keeping such a large quantity then you should be ready to reserve a room in your house just for keeping fulica enclosures. I never freez my eggs when I cant keep them. I usualy try to sell the fresh batch on ebay on bidding from a 99p starting bid. I leave this auction open for only 3 days, then if their not sold I crush them and mix them with mashed banana (exelent calcium sourse for your snails). No doubt in my mind that not all snail keepers would agree with that theory and/or would think it was wrong. 400 is very good. on adverage a single Fulica will lay about 300 eggs. Personaly if you found these eggs in the same nest then I would definitly expect more to come from the other parent. Dont mean to scare you or anything but it has been known for Fulica to lay anything as low as 30 up to as high as 1000. Only in rare cases would you get so many thought, and certainly not when its your snails first lay Thanks for the tip i will put them on eBay and I love snails so I wanted to keep and breed them for fun If they could live in the shed outside in a tank then my parents would be fine about the breeding, but not in the house lol they don't like inverts... i love them!! wow 1000?? really?? eeek! I might seperate my fulicas! its not their first lay.. a lady was giving them away for free and they were between 3-4 years old and proven breeders.. and i just couldn't resist! someone suggested that i crush them but i don't think i could do that. I didnt know snails like mashed banana thanks! someone also suggested that I sell them to reptile keepers as food for skinks and tegus etc but i dont know what i think about that
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Nov 13, 2011 20:28:30 GMT
Post by ness on Nov 13, 2011 20:28:30 GMT
I think Axoloa has a good idea. Basically the ideal is to destroy the unwanted eggs before the baby snails have chance to develop enough to have any feelings or and senses at all, therefore no suffering when destroyed. Crushing and mixing with some kind of snail food is actually a great idea. Most snails benefit from some protein and you are giving back to the snail what has been taken from its body to make the eggs in the first place I think I'll try that myself! My snails are not interrested in banana, but I'll think of something to use... The average number of eggs is around 150 - 250 per clutch, so you are unlikely to get 1,000. Even so they can lay every few weeks....
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Nov 14, 2011 20:38:20 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 14, 2011 20:38:20 GMT
i think its a good idea.. and I could probably do it if I bought them as live food like I do with the morioworms and waxworms I buy for my geckos.. but I don't know if I could do it knowing that they've come from my beloved snailies Does heat make the incubation process quicker? I have 2 geckos in my room, and one of their tank is on top of my drawers with the heat mat being directly above my top drawer.. the heat can be felt through the top of the drawer if you put your hand in so should I put my egg tub in there??
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Nov 14, 2011 22:50:24 GMT
Post by axoloa on Nov 14, 2011 22:50:24 GMT
hi gothucgurrrl, If you realy dont think you can crush the eggs then why dont you get some new enclosure and have your adults (however many you have) next to each other in seperate enclosures. Most people would say that snails dont mind being alone, but this way you have the peace of mind of knowing that either way, they are close to each other higher temperature doese not normaly speed up the hatching process, although cold may slow it down allot, and to much cold will lower your percentage of sucessfull hatch and survivors. Im sure this will never be an issue though in a bedroom, especialy since you have gecko climated enclosures set up
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Nov 14, 2011 23:44:10 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 14, 2011 23:44:10 GMT
haha thanks i hope I'm caring for the eggs properly.. I just left them in the wardrobe in the tub and not bothered them.. I checked yesterday and didnt see any babies Yeah, I think that's what I'm going to do. I was think of putting a fulica with a reticulata because they can't breed with different species (i think).. but it means that one of the snails will have to be alone haha although i'm sure thats not a big deal to the snails.. I will just put the largest one of it's own so he has all the room to himself!
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Nov 15, 2011 0:47:53 GMT
Post by axoloa on Nov 15, 2011 0:47:53 GMT
Hi gothicgurrrl. I dont hink you have done anything wroing with these eggs the wardrobe however is un necessary. I just leave my eggs in the tank and transfer the paretns. they hatch fine. Im not surgesting you do this or anything now that you have already put them in a tub. Im just saying they dont need to be in the dark although it dosent matter if they are either, so its up to you As for the situation with the fulica and the reticulata. These may still try to mate but they cant fertilise each other. its posible you may get a few batches of eggs per year from them still in this case but all the eggs will be 100% infertile You could always get a new friend for your left over fulica Id be more than happy to send you one of mine thats below breeding age but large enough to be safe with an adult. Only problem their is, you would be in the same problem again in about 4 or 5 monthes :/
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Nov 15, 2011 14:38:41 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 15, 2011 14:38:41 GMT
thanks haha i thought they had to be kept in a dark, warm places.. that's the only reason I put them in the wardrobe I think i'm going to look for another reticulata or a different species to go with my other snail but in a couple of months lol thanks for the other through
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Nov 17, 2011 3:56:14 GMT
Post by axoloa on Nov 17, 2011 3:56:14 GMT
lol.. sounds good to me ;D that would probabaly be your best option anyway if your trying to avoid more eggs
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Nov 17, 2011 8:46:50 GMT
Post by foghog on Nov 17, 2011 8:46:50 GMT
just be aware that snails can store sperm within themselves for multiple years. so if they 'were' with the same species, and stored the sperm prior to you keeping them oly with another they won;t breed with...they could very still have fertilized eggs by the hundreds.
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Nov 19, 2011 23:59:16 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 19, 2011 23:59:16 GMT
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Nov 20, 2011 0:00:20 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 20, 2011 0:00:20 GMT
are they albino or are all snails like this when they hatch?
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Nov 20, 2011 5:17:28 GMT
Post by coyote on Nov 20, 2011 5:17:28 GMT
OMG, they are so tiny! And cute! ;D
A lot of snails are very pale or translucent when they hatch and for a little while afterwards. It's hard to say if they will stay pale or not, you probably just have to wait and see.
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Nov 21, 2011 0:17:49 GMT
Post by gothicgurrrl on Nov 21, 2011 0:17:49 GMT
hahaha i know! they are sooo cute they could either be brown fulica or albino reticulata I can't wait to find out!! maybe there's a mixture in there lol I keep 2 reticulata & 3 fulica all together!
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