EGGS: in tank with parents or not?

[Val]

If they are 2 weeks old they could take another 4 weeks, keep them VERY moist and fairly warm and they should hatch, Good luck.

Val

[cleo]

I made the experience, that the eggs from the Arch. puylaerti don't like to be moved or touched. Usually I take all eggs from my archachatinas and put them in a small tub, then I put this tub into the tank of the parents, 'cause there is the perfect climate. But when I did this with the eggs from the puylaertis, all eggs were spoiled, there was only water inside. When I found the next eggs I let them in the ground, where they were layed. And...all of them hatched. With the eggs from my suturalis it's different: I can do with them whatever I want, I could even play ping-pong with them, for sure they will hatch, always and all of them!

[cleo]

...like I said yesterday....you could even play ping-pong with the eggs from the suturalis...
Some weeks ago I found some eggs, one was here, one was there...I let them in the substrate and I really didn't care about them. When the adult ones were in the substrate, I found the egg on top of the substrate, then I put in back into the substrate, so the eggs were moved a lot. And....this morning I found this one in the tank....

[zirliz]

I've always left eggs with parents mainly 'cause I didn't see the eggs, I did remove eggs that my Helix aspera laid to see how the babies fared on their own or left some with parents (oddly the ones with parents grew way faster).

[donut]

i know this is an old thread but it is helpful

i left my first Fuli eggs in the main tank & removed the Snails (there were mites in the tank) as soon as the eggs hatched i removed them - shells & all & 1/2 the hatched eggs survived 1/2 didnt (but they were TINY) & almost all of the second batch eggs that were laid didnt hatch at all but i still got 60 healthy still with us 3week old now snailies

[sandie]

My Fulicas laid their third batch of eggs about a month ago. I removed them from the parent tank and placed them, in compost, in a nursery tank.
Tonight, they are hatching, and to date I have counted over twenty babies, with many more on the way. I have even been watching them as they break out of the shells!

Very pleased, and very excieted, as these will be my first babies.

[vicki]

HELLOO!!

Im so excited to tell everyone this but my 2 Limicoloria Flammea snails (aged 6 months) have just laid 8 tiny eggs, 6 are in a group at the bottom of the tank and the other 2 were just scattered over other side of tank. I was told from my breeder of these snails that they are fairly hard to hatch and keep, unlike fulica (i have 3 in another tank, no eggs so far) .... i deffinetely want to keep all 8 eggs ...... i've heard so many different things about moving them etc etc .... what shall i do? Limicoloria Flammea are generally small snails anyway but my 2 seem to be very tiny so i dont think they could possibly eat the egg, unless their mouths are huge? !

any help or advice would be great, thank you.

got now ive left the eggs alone and just sprayed them with their water and are now back on their heat pad like the tank usually is.

[pingu5040]

wow O.O that is big

[eyepokeyou]

I need to change my tank, it's getting rather dirty, but I have my first litter of babies in there and there appear to be a couple more litters that have hatched. I'm not sure how many are in there, I wanted to seperate the babies but I'm so afraid of missing some and throwing them out! Lol. How do you guys change your tanks with little ones, just go through it very carefully? Bit by bit???
I think I should seperate the babies too, and let them grow in a new tank.

[Dusk]

I had a similar problem, and what I ended up doing was going through the entire tank by hand, moving the soil to a bucket, extracting any babies I found, and then going through the bucket by hand twice more (each time somehow finding more!). I then left the old soil in its bucket for a while, every morning checking the top for any more babies and every evening going through the whole &$%£$ lot by hand again.

Seven days later, I was still finding baby snails. They were some extremely persistent fulis.... I waited until I had gone through it three times without finding any more before I disposed of the soil.

It was an epic task and one I have no intention of ever doing again In your case I'd do a series of partial soil changes rather than a full change, going through everything that you remove for babies at least twice.

[eyepokeyou]

Lol Aw man, this is going to take a while.

[coyote]

Jul 12, 2009 23:44:42 GMT Dusk said:

I had a similar problem, and what I ended up doing was going through the entire tank by hand, moving the soil to a bucket, extracting any babies I found, and then going through the bucket by hand twice more (each time somehow finding more!). I then left the old soil in its bucket for a while, every morning checking the top for any more babies and every evening going through the whole &$%£$ lot by hand again.

Seven days later, I was still finding baby snails. They were some extremely persistent fulis.... I waited until I had gone through it three times without finding any more before I disposed of the soil.

It was an epic task and one I have no intention of ever doing again In your case I'd do a series of partial soil changes rather than a full change, going through everything that you remove for babies at least twice.

A most impressive feat! In the mythology of the snails, your name will rank up there with their staunchest and most valiant heroes. ;D

[nicolasnail]

Jul 13, 2009 3:48:35 GMT coyote said:

Jul 12, 2009 23:44:42 GMT Dusk said:

I had a similar problem,....

A most impressive feat! In the mythology of the snails, your name will rank up there with their staunchest and most valiant heroes. ;D

I wish we could rate posts because that made me laugh .

[Hannah-Bird]

Hey, I have two cepaea nemoralis snails who've just laid their first clutch of eggs. I'm really excited, but I have several questions about the situation. Is there a notable history of grove snails cannibalizing their young? Do baby snails have any special dietary requirements?

Also, I have a smallish tank that's suitable for the two snails I already have, but wouldn't be comfortable for a higher population. Is there a certain method of transference you'd recommend? Should I move the eggs and the adults to a different tank or just the adults? If the latter, at what age should the babies be moved as well? Thank you for any help!

-Birdie (also new parents Lenore and Wendell!)

[coyote]

I've never made any special dietary efforts for baby snails. I don't know of any accounts of grove snails cannibalizing their young. It's possible that a couple of eggs or hatchlings might be consumed, but not enough to decimate the clutch. Otherwise, all their reproductive efforts would be wasted.

I've waited for the offspring to be relatively big before moving to a new tank. As long as there was adequate food for all and I cleaned the tank often, they were fine.

[Hannah-Bird]

Thanks, coyote! I'm glad I don't have so much to worry about.

It seems the population isn't going to be quite so high after all; after they've matured significantly, I'm giving two babies to my niece and two to my mom's coworker. They both appreciate unusual pets.

[Hannah-Bird]

Okay, so it turns out that the time it takes Cepaea nemoralis to lay eggs after having sex is roughly 8 days. I know this because they've now laid a SECOND clutch of eggs. Two. In less than two weeks. This is like something out of Monty Python (every spermatophore is sacred...)! One last thing of note is that it was once again Lenore who laid the eggs. So... Yeah. All that happened. I'm not really sure what to do about all the eggs, because there are probably fifty of them now.

[coyote]

Now's the time to think about whether to freeze them or let them hatch.

[Hannah-Bird]

I decided to remove the second clutch and bury them in the green belt near my house. They're now buried in an area with plenty of food for when they hatch, and I figured this way the worst case scenario is that they'll provide food for something else. It seemed nicer than freezing them.

Also, when I removed them from the tank (and put them in a little travel dish with some moist soil) I counted them as they were separated. There were 112! From what I can see, that clutch was larger than the first, but it's still a shocking number lol.

PS: The eggs from the first clutch seem to have gotten a little swollen!

[coyote]

112! Wow. Good thing you didn't try to let them all hatch in your tank!

I'll bet the first clutch is getting close to hatching.

[Hannah-Bird]

I know! I was pretty surprised there were so many! I was a little worried; Wendell dug some of the eggs up in his travels today.

It'll be three weeks since they were laid on Sunday... Should be soon!

[pleurdonteisabella]

I have just hatched around 250 tiger eggs all were removed from the adults tank into 3 different tubs and all hatched at room temp, Also p.isabella again removed from the parents tank as they can eat their eggs, I have flemmea eggs but they have been left in the tank, I leave retic eggs alone and margie's.

[Hannah-Bird]

First of all, sorry for having been away for so long. We've been readying our house to sell, so that's been eating a lot of my time. Also my younger siblings have been hogging the laptop.

At the one month mark I decided the first clutch that Lenore laid was just a test batch, because nothing has happened. However, this was after I'd already taken the second clutch out into our local woods and buried them, so there was a nice little waste of time.

Luckily, they've been BUSY this summer. She's since laid a third clutch. The afternoon after she came out of the dirt from burying them the day before, she and Wendell mated again and-- sure enough-- she laid more a week later.

I have a new concern though, because they've become infested with mites. I didn't wash an organic carrot thoroughly enough before introducing it to the tank, and I'm sure it's making them uncomfortable. I've gotten a new tank in which to set them up, but I'm concerned about hatching the eggs in a tank infested with mites. Should I just replace as much of the substrate as I can without disturbing the eggs? Thanks for any advice.

One last note, Lenore has consistently been the "mother" in the pair. Has anyone else witnessed such structured mating assignments in their snails?

[pleurdonteisabella]

What are the mites like? Are they bad mites or poo eating mites? If they are the bad mites they will feed on the eggs/babies when they hatch so i would suggest a real good clean of the tank scrub the whole thing out and starting them back in there with clean coir as well, I have had a mite problem recently but they are a poo eating mite, I was panicing incase they were bad but they are never on the snails just on the old food and their poo.
I'm not sure about the mating, I have never known it with any of my species.

[Hannah-Bird]

I've seen them on the snails a few times, but I don't know if it was with malicious intent. Lenore's shell has been a bit dull lately, but I think it's just from the eggs sapping her calcium intake. Their tiny and dark in color if that helps, lol. If they are the bad mites, should I remove the eggs from the substrate when I clean it?