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Post by akapotcho on Oct 21, 2013 22:31:23 GMT
hello Which is this species of helix? helix 1  helix 2   they come from Cattolica in Italien (adiriatic coast) it's not helix aspersa the shell make 2-3cm (juvenils) I thought in helix cincta an idea? bye |
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Cashell
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Post by Cashell on Oct 22, 2013 17:01:52 GMT
Hmmmm... The only helix snails I know well are pomatia and aspersa so I'm not sure, but honestly it does look like a lighter morph of helix aspersa or maybe even lucorum but I may be wrong.
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Post by tsrebel on Oct 22, 2013 19:01:37 GMT
I'd say H. aspersa, but I'm not sure.
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Dumbledore
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Post by Dumbledore on Oct 22, 2013 19:26:58 GMT
They do look an awful lot like aspersa...
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Post by akapotcho on Oct 22, 2013 20:37:54 GMT
I also thought of aspersa, but I have a doubt, for me, the lines of the shell are too net and too regular for aspersa the aspersa has full of horizontal lines clear which cross the black lines, while there, there is not... and the black lines are clearer At the moment (with the origin), I think rather in youg lucorum or cincta, but I'm not sure thank for your opinions  I would take other more precise photos |
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Post by inky on Oct 23, 2013 5:33:15 GMT
the lines of the shell are too net and too regular for aspersa the aspersa has full of horizontal lines clear which cross the black lines, while there, there is not... and the black lines are clearer I would take other more precise photos That being said, there are other morphs with much lighter and neater shells. It does look a bit colourful for an aspersa, though. Maybe a luco? |
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Post by brunni on Oct 23, 2013 9:43:03 GMT
Maybe Helix ligata (Müller, 1774), known from central Italy ? Oval, light colored shell, usually with three darker bands in the upper part of the last whorl ?   |
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Post by akapotcho on Oct 23, 2013 13:36:01 GMT
yes! the second snail are probably helix ligata, thank! more picture of the first snail:   lucorum? |
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Post by tsrebel on Oct 23, 2013 15:10:51 GMT
Young snails often show such lines in H.aspersa, and change considerably when they grow up. That is also the case for H.pomatia, but I think this snail is too dark to be a H.pomatia. Just speaking from my own experience.
I've no experience with H.tincta or H. lucorum (wish I had!).
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Post by akapotcho on Oct 23, 2013 15:51:07 GMT
OK, thank you! I am going to wait a little that grows and I would put photos |
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Post by Dumbledore on Oct 23, 2013 18:37:27 GMT
Definitely not pomatia, too small.
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Post by dancingsock on Oct 23, 2013 18:55:22 GMT
A lot of my baby aspersas have very well defined stripes, with no breaks of black brindling (not quite sure that's the right description) like yours.
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Post by akapotcho on Oct 23, 2013 19:11:06 GMT
OK, thank you for your answers
I am going to wait that they grow, I would give news to you!
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Post by Cashell on Oct 24, 2013 21:13:29 GMT
Maybe Helix ligata (Müller, 1774), known from central Italy ? Oval, light colored shell, usually with three darker bands in the upper part of the last whorl ? That's very interesting. I don't think I've heard of that kind of helix species before. |
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