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Post by scalysnailtail on Jan 10, 2014 20:44:56 GMT
Can i Cross Breed Achatina Achatina(Tiger Snails) with Achatina balteata infrafusca. Are they in the same family, and can they be bred comfortably? Achatina balteata infrafusca.   Achatina Achatina(Tiger Snails) 
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Post by muddydragon on Jan 10, 2014 21:22:55 GMT
family is quite high up in the taxonomic system which is a system which groups organisms in ever decreasing size groups until there is only one species left the family group is above the genus. the species name such as Achatina fulica gives first the genus (Achatina) then the species (fulica). Family is a step wider from genus so anything in the same genus has to be in the same family. Infact Archachatina and Achatina are in the same family. Because something is in the same family or even the same genus it does not mean it can crossbreed.
No-one would know without trying it and making sure both snails used in the experiment had never had the chance to mate with any other snail. However on the whole it is unwise to crossbreed as it often leads to problems as we have discussed before.
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Post by scalysnailtail on Jan 10, 2014 21:30:36 GMT
family is quite high up in the taxonomic system which is a system which groups organisms in ever decreasing size groups until there is only one species left the family group is above the genus. the species name such as Achatina fulica gives first the genus (Achatina) then the species (fulica). Family is a step wider from genus so anything in the same genus has to be in the same family. Infact Archachatina and Achatina are in the same family. Because something is in the same family or even the same genus it does not mean it can crossbreed. No-one would know without trying it and making sure both snails used in the experiment had never had the chance to mate with any other snail. However on the whole it is unwise to crossbreed as it often leads to problems as we have discussed before. How do we remove those hazardous results? just get closer in the genus?
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Post by muddydragon on Jan 10, 2014 21:39:11 GMT
there has even been problems with cross breeding different subspecies (different forms so to speak of a species) for example crossing different Archachatina marginata subspecies (such as suturalis with ovum) generally produces snails which have greatly reduced lifespans. You can't get more closely related than subspecies really without it just being the same thing, so getting more closely related doesn't solve the problems.
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Post by Tomáš Protiva on Jan 21, 2014 10:21:29 GMT
I think it will be impossible to crossbreed balteata and achatina because it seems that there are bigger boundaries in achatina genus than in lissachatina where crossbreeding is pretty common. But I disagree that crossbreeding is bad for snails even in case of suturalis and ovum. suturalis and ovum are same snail genetically and you can also get imported snails with mixed characters of both these forms / subspecies. I never saw any effect on the lifespan. In more distant species it could have some bad influence on the offsprings but crossbreeding is not very common there.
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