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Post by tenebricosa on May 30, 2017 13:14:26 GMT
Hello there! I thought I might show off my babies. I currently own 4 snails: - Two Monachoides incarnatus, Cosmo (the mutant snail) and Poof (a juvenile)
- One Cepea nemoralis (Pink: Rosy)
- One Cepea sp (yellow with bands: Wanda
And a clutch of eggs from Cosmo and an unknown parent (maybe Cosmo themself???) At first, Cosmo and Wanda lived in a very small container Then I moved them into a cute container with Poof that was slightly bigger and in which Cosmo laid their eggs I really wanted to separate the eggs from any other snail, so it became a necessity to find a new living place for all these snails. I first moved Wanda and Poof back to the first tank, and later they were joined by Rosy, which caught my eye while I was in the garden. And a week or so ago, I received a fauna box in which I could set up a nice enclosure for all of them to live in, which is where they arez living now. The terrarium contains a small water dish with very little water in it (since the pictures were taken, I also added a small rock inside the dish so that any pillbug that were to fall into it may get back out. They never fell inside it on their own, but it's just as a precaution) ; a food dish (that was their old enclosure so you can really see the improvement!) ; living plants (moss, grass, and a cute plant with hydrophobic hairs on its leaves that turns any water that touches them into perfect droplets, I have no idea what it's called though) ; a millipede and a few pillbugs for eating the feces and such but they're not very good at it (they do eat the feces but not very fast so I still have to remove the bulk of it if I don't want it to rot) They all seem to really like this new enclosure! Sleepy snails And sleepy pillbugs. It's funny how they're all sleeping in the smae place despite not being from the same "colony" (I picked them up at different places in my garden)
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Post by astana on May 31, 2017 0:26:13 GMT
Gorgeous photos! And gorgeous snails, as well. Rosy interests me in particular, because around where I live I never come across that color morph of Cepaea... pink Cepaea sure are pretty, though!
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Post by Cephaloria on May 31, 2017 2:27:14 GMT
How funny! I have the exact same enclosures for my snailbies (snail babies). I like the lids a lot, they're easy to wash poop off of. I love the colorations and shell shape! Beautiful snails Do you ever have problems with the millipedes and snails being aggressive toward one another?
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Post by tenebricosa on May 31, 2017 6:54:28 GMT
Rosy really has a unique shell! It's darker in the center and has some yellow parts, it's really gorgeous: Yes, the lid really is convenient! Plus if I ever happen to have eggs, the holes aren't big enough to let babies get through (except maybe Cosmo's, since the eggs are really really small, but they're in a different box with gaze covering the top). The clean-up crew and the snails don't seem to be interacting much. When I first introduced the pillbugs, they ran all over the place (including on the snails' faces) for a while after settling down and since then I haven't seem them interacting, even at night when they're all active. As for the millipede, I varely rarely see it, and if I do see it, it's mostly when it's underground near the sides of the tank. It's a diplopoda (mine is one of the black shiny ones that roll in a ball), so a herbivorous/detritivorous and I don't think it would have any problems with the snails. Little picture of Wanda enjoying some tree bark: And I also realized I made and ID mistake and that they are actually a hortensis, albeit a small one. They're really smaller than Rosy but seem to be already developing a white lip.
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Post by Cephaloria on May 31, 2017 16:50:05 GMT
Wow, Rosy's gorgeous! That pink color is just beautiful. I have a Mesodon who loves sweet potato, but his shell is so translucent that it shows up through the shell, coloring him orange in places. Carrot never did that, but then again, he didn't eat nearly as much carrot as he does sweet potato.
I'll have to give diplopoda a try. I tried placing a brachoria in the tank, but he was bigger and seemed a bit aggressive toward the snails.
Mine became fairly lethargic, hung upside down, and reduced its appetite when developing its lip, have you had the same experience? I've only watched one fully develop his lip since I've had him, so I'm not sure how much of his personality is just being lethargic, haha.
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Post by tenebricosa on Jun 1, 2017 8:40:10 GMT
Well technically, Brachorias are part of the Diplopoda class, but I guess yours didn't get along with the snails because they were competing for the same food source.
I haven't really noticed any behavorial changes in Wanda, except maybe that yesterday I saw them lying motionless on an eggshell, probably trying to make osmosis happen.
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Post by tenebricosa on Jun 4, 2017 6:54:29 GMT
Little surprise this morning as I just found out Rosy is developing a brown lip So, in the end, it seems they are a nemoralis.
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Post by scar66 on Jun 4, 2017 8:01:46 GMT
Nevertheless, Rosy is gorgeous! The brown lip matches the darker center of their shell really nicely.
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Post by tenebricosa on Jun 12, 2017 7:04:19 GMT
The article on Cosmo is coming along nicely and should get published in September if I'm not mistaken. Unfortunately, it seems all their eggs are dead, as more and more of them get all shriveled up. I even opened a few ones and there was nothing inside, so maybe either the eggs were infertile (is that even possible?) or something went wrong in their development inside the egg or they had bad environmental conditions (It got really hot around here for a few days and I'm afraid that despite daily mistings they still died) Also I just found one of my pillbugs dead with his old molt stuck on his face. Poor thing was probably unable to eat :/ I've got good news, though: Rosy has laid a tiny clutch of eggs (there's only about ten of them or something) and I left them in there to see if the pillbugs or the millipedes would eat them, so that I would know if I needed to move the eggs next time, but they don't seem to be touching them so that's nice. Maybe I'll have a bunch of pink Cepea babies Here are some pics of Cosmo where you can see their unique eyestalk: And little Poof, who climbed up on a leaf and didn't come down until the evening: Rosy tried to do the same thing but broke the stem trying to do it... you're a bit heavier than a juvenile Monachoides, Rosy! Something's also driving spiders near the tank, as the other day I found that a small daddy longlegs had made a web there and I move it away, and today ANOTHER bigger daddy longleps has made a BIG web during the night and I would feel bad to move them but at the same time I don't really like having this big spiderweb right next to me while I'm on the computer. I'm probably going to move it to another room.
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Post by tenebricosa on Jul 24, 2017 10:53:24 GMT
I haven't posted here in a while, so here's a bit of an update: 3 new Cepaea have joined the group: -The shy Apple: -Hamster, whom I found with a few cracks in their shell: -And Rabbit, with a color resembling Rosy's but not quite, I think this one's a bit darker: Speaking of Rosy, they're my only snail who will spend their day buried in the ground and only come out during the night, covered in dirt. The others sleep everywhere, sometimes on the roof, sometimes on the ground, but never in it. Cosmo almost never goes on the roof these days, though.
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Post by robinwhiskers on Jul 24, 2017 11:09:55 GMT
Awesome snails! They are addicting, aren't they?
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Post by tenebricosa on Jul 24, 2017 14:21:54 GMT
God yes, when I started this it was just about temporarily homing one snail and now I have 7, oops.
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Post by finch on Jul 24, 2017 19:09:01 GMT
They are all beautiful! The millipede and pill bugs, though; have they reproduced? It looks to be a fantastic idea for my large tank, because the snail poop grows mold on the moss.
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Post by scar66 on Jul 25, 2017 4:23:27 GMT
They are all beautiful! The millipede and pill bugs, though; have they reproduced? It looks to be a fantastic idea for my large tank, because the snail poop grows mold on the moss. Popping in to share that in my experience-- Yes. My pillbugs have reproduced incredibly fast. They don't seem to bother the snails at all, and they do a good job keeping the tank from molding, but I think I may have to start releasing babies when I find them, haha! There are tons of them.
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Post by tenebricosa on Jul 25, 2017 8:22:29 GMT
The first batch of pillbugs that I caught had a few pregnant ladies in it and it only took a week or so before there were tiny white pillbugs running around everywhere. I have found a few dead adults and rarely see the living ones during the day, but the babies seem to thrive and are getting bigger and bigger. I haven't seen any new babies, though. After the two guys I picked up yesterday, I thought I was done because I had all the Cepaea morphs I wanted, except for a red one. But turns out there was a morph I didn't know I needed. Meet Chocolate: I found them in my garden last night among a ton of other snails that were crawling around after the rain. There were a few yellow Cepaea, a pink one, a few that looked like Wanda, and some Cornu aspersum, but Chocolate really caught my eye with its distinctive pattern. This is easily the most banded Cepaea I have ever seen, to the point where I'm not even sure what its base colour is. It seems to be some sort of orangey-pink though. As they look like an adult nemoralis, I'm really curious about what would happen if they mated with Rosy, I'm sure that would bring some intersting results! I might set up a second tank just for these two to see if they'd like each other? Poor Cosmo, already crippled and now living with a bunch of colorful snails that have nothing to do with him.
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Post by robinwhiskers on Jul 25, 2017 12:21:10 GMT
Maybe I should put a pillbug in my snail tank. I have a few gallon tub with 7 snails about the size of yours, should it be ok?
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Post by finch on Jul 25, 2017 14:57:04 GMT
When I find a few new snails, I'm going to get some pillbugs too. Does anybody have a snail attractant that they like to use? I'll make a thread so all of the answers aren't on here.
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Post by tenebricosa on Jul 25, 2017 16:02:56 GMT
I've started with about 6 pillbugs so I think you'll be fine. Only one pillbug won't do much however and don't expect the poop to just disappear right after it's laid. Even with the countless babies I have, it still takes them days to eat all the poop and I remove evrything that not directly on the dirt.
As for snail attractants, I don't use any but from personal experience, what would work best would be to leave some snail favorite food (cucumber, sweet potatoes,....) under a hiding spot and check on it regularly between dusk and dawn, and during rainy weather. You could also try the same thing but with a shallow dish of beer, which snails and slugs LOVE so much that they'll drown in it, so remember to check very regularly if you use this if you don't want drowned snails (very small snails can drown in the smallest puddle)
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Post by finch on Jul 25, 2017 19:02:02 GMT
I'll leave out some cucumber or something soon. I'll probably go on a night snail hunt, too.
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Post by minineko on Jul 30, 2017 3:26:06 GMT
You're gonna end up with 30 of them if you try to get every morph!
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Post by tenebricosa on Jul 30, 2017 11:57:44 GMT
That's why I'm not trying to get one of each, I settled for the one I find the most pretty
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Post by tenebricosa on Aug 5, 2017 7:35:53 GMT
Got two more friends yesterday night, they are Monachoides vicinus and they are some really cute little critters. I haven't put them in the main tank yet, they are in the small container for a short quarantine.
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Post by scar66 on Aug 7, 2017 7:17:18 GMT
Oh man they're so cute!! I love their little spots, they make me think of dalmatians.
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Post by tenebricosa on Aug 7, 2017 7:43:37 GMT
Yes they are really cute! Honestly I find them cuter than Cepaeas Just look at those spots! So pretty. The pink one is a lot shyer though, I never see it out of its shell, I just know it moves because sometimes I find it in a different spot.
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Post by wolf on Aug 7, 2017 9:26:03 GMT
Hi tenebricosa, where are the Monachoides vicinus from (location)? Kind regards: wolf
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