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Post by etana on May 29, 2018 5:17:28 GMT
very useful and interesting discussion! how are they now? They are doing well! Occasionally I still spot a snail with the "swollen mouth", but no one has had a full craw prolapse since I last wrote about one here.  |
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Post by etana on May 29, 2018 5:21:48 GMT
I looked but didn't see it mentioned - what species are the snails this post is about? One of my garden snails came down with gut extrusion, the first and only time I've ever seen it, and I'm wondering if this could help if it happens to another one- it seems you may be talking about another species though because there wasn't anything to push back in (I don't think) Ahhh I apologize! These snails have all been of the Giant African Land Snail specie Archachatina marginata - both Suturalis and Ovum. The first snail to have it was the size of my entire hand, he's doing good now. What happened with your snail? |
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Post by etana on Jun 11, 2018 18:09:04 GMT
I promised to keep updating so here we go. No one has had a full prolapse since I last wrote about one. I quit the daily castor oil after the snails had been back to normal for a while, and moved on to only giving it to snails who don't look okay.
I still occasionally see the "swollen mouth" expression in sleeping snails that used to lead to the prolapses, but then I give them a bit of castor oil immediately, and so far it hasn't even once developed into a full prolapse. In fact the next time they sleep, their face looks better. I see no adverse effects either, no sudden deaths or anything else unexpected.
I wonder if even the occasional swelling would stop reappearing if I just kept on giving them the oil. I'll probably have to do it, because it's not nice that they still get some obvious discomfort now and then.
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Post by seastar on Jun 11, 2018 18:23:19 GMT
Phew! Thank God there were no full prolapses since you give the castor oil!
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Achatina fulica
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Post by fendo on Jun 13, 2018 10:02:40 GMT
I'm glad you've managed to mitigate the illness together. These notes are quite insightful, and it's great to see that remedies may exist; thank you! Could you please specify where on its skin have you been rubbing the oil? Just everywhere on the top of the leg, or also at the bottom? Have you included or specially avoided its neck, head, mouth, etc.? I'd like to have a reference for good practice. |
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Post by michel on Jan 8, 2019 18:46:17 GMT
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Post by etana on Mar 25, 2019 23:29:19 GMT
Hi all, I'm very sorry about not getting back to this thread earlier!
Snail #1 is still alive, and he's very strong. He had a couple more gut extrusions over the winter, but I treated them the same way as I did all the earlier ones, and they do seem to happen less and less frequently. One incident scared me quite a bit because I was away for a couple days and came home to find his craw hanging out, with him obviously having been unable to eat or drink during the time I wasn't there. He was exhausted, but still wrestled the craw back in after I punctured it, and soon was back to being active and looking okay.
I haven't had any deaths that I could attribute to the gut extrusion itself. I also can't see any signs that the castor oil would be hurting them.
I've been putting the oil on top of the foot, not underneath. I've not really been avoiding their faces or anything, I'm only careful that they don't get it straight in their eyes.
I got my medicine quality castor oil from the best local pharmacy I know of, that's all I can say about it right now.
(Ahh, sorry about my English tonight, it's 1:30 am and I'm typing this on the verge of sleep. Just couldn't wait another day anymore.)
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Post by etana on May 31, 2020 22:36:01 GMT
Darius, the snail that this thread is about, also known as "Snail #1", passed away this morning (31st May 2020).
He battled recurring prolapses for over 2 years of his life, but in fact did not die with one hanging out of his mouth. He hadn't had one for months. It's a relief knowing that, even though the cause of death is now unknown.
Rest easy, my dear grump.
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Post by orchid on Jun 1, 2020 6:34:39 GMT
Darius, the snail that this thread is about, also known as "Snail #1", passed away this morning (31st May 2020). He battled recurring prolapses for over 2 years of his life, but in fact did not die with one hanging out of his mouth. He hadn't had one for months. It's a relief knowing that, even though the cause of death is now unknown. Rest easy, my dear grump. i’m so sorry for your loss. he was so well loved and cared for <3 |
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Post by morningcoffee on Jun 1, 2020 7:50:23 GMT
Darius, the snail that this thread is about, also known as "Snail #1", passed away this morning (31st May 2020). He battled recurring prolapses for over 2 years of his life, but in fact did not die with one hanging out of his mouth. He hadn't had one for months. It's a relief knowing that, even though the cause of death is now unknown. Rest easy, my dear grump. Sorry for your loss etana, you really went above and beyond to provide the best care possible. |
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Post by etana on Jun 5, 2020 22:39:22 GMT
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daniele
Achatina immaculata
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Post by daniele on Jun 6, 2020 14:56:12 GMT
so sorry for this guy....were she able to eat? I have guy who is suffering the same problem, and i'm feeding her with shakes since then... She learned how to drink from the siringe (without the needle) and when I come close with the siringe she will come close with the mouth to drink the shake.. I go on until she stops coming close with her mouth, usually for one hour or more, then stop when I assume she s full. She haven't eat any solid stuff yet. Is the same guy who suffered from oviduct prolapse and amputated it herself. All the vets I have met have no precise idea, only some hypothesis
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Post by etana on Jun 9, 2020 21:03:57 GMT
Yeah, he was disinterested in eating right after each prolapse (not surprising at all really), but once he had rested for a while, he would eat solid foods.
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daniele
Achatina immaculata
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Post by daniele on Jun 11, 2020 13:06:28 GMT
I bought castor oil in case he gets worse...but did not dare to use it yet! also I've read you used it on a snail of 500 grams weight...mine is a very small aspersum specimen, don't know the weight precisely, but I can guess she's less than 10 grams abt.... would you still try in this case? Another thing I was suggested is to try to fight the swelling by bathing the swollen part with sugar, that I still haven't tried either, as the swelling is slowly reducing (very slowly, she is in this condition from 2 weeks now)
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Post by etana on Jun 13, 2020 11:09:16 GMT
I think you could still use something like a single a drop of it on the snail.
I have heard of the sugar trick to help with swelling but tbh, I never did it. I punctured the craw as soon as I saw it was out, and the snail pushed it back in with his foot once it had drained enough. If you do it, let us know what happens.
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daniele
Achatina immaculata
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Post by daniele on Jun 13, 2020 12:27:25 GMT
Fortunately my snail is only showing mouth swelling, that is reducing by itself, probably related to a infection or inflamation condition, caused by the oviduct prolapse she suffered.. I really really really hope that I will see the guts coming out... Problem now is that she is not eating, only eats the shakes when I feed her...this is worrying me! I know she needs to recover from the injury she had, but without eating to recover will not be easy
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