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Post by hickoryflat30188 on Dec 2, 2019 11:16:50 GMT
So I purchased 2 Mystery Snails without knowing what gender they were turns out one is female & one is male. I now have 3 egg clutches & the snails are constantly breeding. I don't know if any will be viable & they may not even hatch. 2 clutches I've moved to a make shift incubator & the 3rd I'm leaving be. Please may I have suggestions as to weather I should separate the two snails to prevent further breeding or leave everything as it is. I really do NOT want 100 + snails even though they are my favorite aquatic pet. I have 3 aquariums = two 10g & one 5g the 5g has nothing in it except plants, & a sponge filter. I also have baby cory catfish growing out in the other 10g tank which has been an ordeal for me. I'm re-homing them as soon as they are large enough. If any of the snail clutches hatch where would you all suggest I put them? All I ever wanted was one Betta fish & one Mystery snail. Both attempts at having Bettas was disastrous. They both died around 5-6 months after getting them (gotten at different times never together). I gave up on bettas but stuck it out w/ the snails though I've lost my fair share of those too. Pls. offer suggestions.
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Post by snerdahmik on Dec 2, 2019 17:16:36 GMT
You can put the eggs in the freezer so they won't hatch.
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Post by hickoryflat30188 on Dec 3, 2019 9:47:34 GMT
I don't mind if these first 3 clutches hatch I just want the parents to QUIT breeding. I want to see if these clutches will be viable THEN don't want anymore. I'm NOT into killing the babies.
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Post by snerdahmik on Dec 3, 2019 17:13:56 GMT
I don't mind if these first 3 clutches hatch I just want the parents to QUIT breeding. I want to see if these clutches will be viable THEN don't want anymore. I'm NOT into killing the babies. There isnt much you can do then. Maybe seperate them so they wont breed anymore? |
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Post by littlegoldsnail on Dec 3, 2019 18:23:42 GMT
Just remove any eggs you don’t want and freeze them. Btw, 3 clutches is going to be a LOT of babies, more then 2 10 gallons and a 5 gallon can handle (at least they won’t handle them for very long), I would suggest freezing one or two of the clutches. With that many clutches you could have anywhere from 175-500 baby snails.
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indrajitmasuda
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Post by indrajitmasuda on Nov 5, 2020 13:26:29 GMT
idont mind many pedegree snails cleaning up the tank and looking beautiful - nature always takes care of excess in one way or another we dont need to freeze or kill.
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Post by littlegoldsnail on Nov 5, 2020 20:16:47 GMT
idont mind many pedegree snails cleaning up the tank and looking beautiful - nature always takes care of excess in one way or another we dont need to freeze or kill. yes, nature does handle it in its own way, but a fish tank is not nature. In the wild they are in thousands of gallons of water and there are natural predators that keep snail populations in check. In fish tank, it is a very different story. As pet owners, we are responsible for the well-being of our pets, and breeding so many snails that they have no space, not enough food and the water quality is poor, is not caring for them. In order to maintain a healthy tank, it’s important to make sure any hatched snails have a healthy environment to live in, and if that can’t be provided, then the snails shouldn’t be hatched in the first place. Similar concept as a puppy farm. The person might legitimately love breeding dogs, but they should not be breeding them if they can’t provide them with a healthy home. |
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Post by indrajitmasuda on Nov 29, 2020 9:39:55 GMT
My answer - my instincts and nature developed in my tank together are sufficient to take ethical decisions- remember nature exists even in a lone molicule, like a drop on your hand may have a universe there including covid virus surviving happily!! i always believe that if there is reproduction then not only is nature present in her full glory but the tank water is in a fine state and inmates are happy. Im afraid i dont subscribe to the view that one takes over from nature and begins to cull or restrict egg pods from producing babes ar in any way prevent natural mating because of your limitations. For example some people believe that abortion is right even when there is no medical compulsion, while others believe that it is tantamount to murder and a sin. It all depends on which side one is on and there is always a justification for both angles. Again vegetarians believe it is wrong to kill animals for satisfying your appetite, while non vegetarians think that is pious rubbish. Those who breed animals for food cull them without thought. There are always many sides to a coin and one does not need to be opiniated rather, good to listen to the opposing argument - it might well teach one some valuable lessons of life.
Baisically i think hickory has the right compassionate approach - no culling no aborting fertile eggs. So far as too many babies crowding the tank, apart from my view strongly held that nature will take care of the problem even in a little tank as in a drop of water, there is always the option of giving them away, returning them to the pet shop ar finding a pond into which they can be released. That would be the ethical option. Certainly not culling babes, freezing egg pods or removing them or preventing normal mating if the genders are compatible.
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Post by littlegoldsnail on Nov 30, 2020 3:16:54 GMT
Abortion is very very different. There is a big difference between a human child and some snails eggs. I don’t think abortion is a subject for a snail forum.
As for my previous post, I was merely pointing out, that a fish tank is not nature no matter what way you look at it. In nature snails are in an ecosystem with natural predators, competition for food, thousands or even millions of gallons of water, etc. There is no way to accurately compare an aquarium to nature.
As long as the water quality is good and the snails are not rasping on eachother’s shells etc, then it’s fine. I was just saying that it is perfectly humane to remove fresh eggs to prevent overpopulation if you need to.
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