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Post by orchid on Mar 16, 2020 17:34:35 GMT
yesterday, i gave my snail new dirt. it was Exo Terra coconut fiber. he was in just dirt from the ground, but it wasn’t good. he seemed to like it, but bee-lined for the cage wall. he climbed to the top and started rasping at the wire lid. i was confused so i picked him up and put him on his food. he went to the ceiling again. i let him be, and this morning he was still on his lid. i picked him up and he looked as if he retracted way too far into his shell. i’m really worried i did something wrong. i used tap water to reactivate his dirt (it was the block kind) and now i’m thinking it was all my fault, he was have reacted badly to the tap water. i’m very worried, but he doesn’t smell dead. he’s never retracted this far at all. p.s he is definitely not dead, he’s come out of his shell. (red line is where he has retracted to) PICTURE: imgur.com/gallery/2RaNWiX |
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Post by orchid on Mar 16, 2020 17:35:04 GMT
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Post by orchid on Mar 16, 2020 17:36:54 GMT
does he have deep retraction syndrome? can they survive with this? i’m so scared
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Post by orchid on Mar 16, 2020 17:45:20 GMT
update! he is moving and seems fine, i’m really hoping his dirt is ok
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Post by orchid on Mar 16, 2020 19:01:33 GMT
sorry for posting so much but i’m confused... he woke up and is climbing his tank again. why didn’t he go back to sleep, why does he love his ceiling so much?? he wasn’t even on his dirt, he was sitting on a large leaf i put incase he just hates his dirt or something... maybe he’s just not used to it as he was a wild snail
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Post by littlegoldsnail on Mar 16, 2020 19:04:44 GMT
All my snails like to sleep upside down on the walls or on the ceiling. As far as I know it’s perfectly normal. Every snail I’ve ever had slept on the lid of their enclosure or upside down in on the top of a hide.
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Post by orchid on Mar 16, 2020 19:21:27 GMT
All my snails like to sleep upside down on the walls or on the ceiling. As far as I know it’s perfectly normal. Every snail I’ve ever had slept on the lid of their enclosure or upside down in on the top of a hide. that makes me feel better, but the weird thing is he has never done that before lol. maybe he just isn’t used to his dirt or something. |
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Post by morningcoffee on Mar 17, 2020 11:01:03 GMT
Sleeping on the wall or ceiling is completely normal and mimics what they would do in the wild to keep themselves safer from predators.
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Post by orchid on Mar 17, 2020 17:46:09 GMT
Sleeping on the wall or ceiling is completely normal and mimics what they would do in the wild to keep themselves safer from predators. ok, thanks!! |
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Post by snerdahmik on Mar 20, 2020 6:05:55 GMT
Don’t be worried about the tap water, unless it tastes funky to you compared to other cities, then it should be okay! He didn’t retract very deep at all. My smaller snails sometimes suck in that deeply to sleep for greater lengths of time.
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Post by orchid on Mar 20, 2020 23:27:45 GMT
Don’t be worried about the tap water, unless it tastes funky to you compared to other cities, then it should be okay! He didn’t retract very deep at all. My smaller snails sometimes suck in that deeply to sleep for greater lengths of time. thank you so much! your so helpful, and i’m glad my snail is ok  i’m a really big worrier |
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Post by snerdahmik on Mar 21, 2020 0:15:54 GMT
Don’t be worried about the tap water, unless it tastes funky to you compared to other cities, then it should be okay! He didn’t retract very deep at all. My smaller snails sometimes suck in that deeply to sleep for greater lengths of time. thank you so much! your so helpful, and i’m glad my snail is ok i’m a really big worrier I was too, when I first joined the forum. It’s alright! |
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Post by Liguus on Mar 21, 2020 2:22:31 GMT
Just FYI since I don't follow your posts and don't know if it's been brought up, but wanted to mention this: you are feeding it a high protein diet and other snails/slugs/worms right? This is a Haplotrema species and won't do well on a standard snail diet of fruit and veg. It must be supplemented.
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Post by orchid on Mar 21, 2020 6:45:19 GMT
Just FYI since I don't follow your posts and don't know if it's been brought up, but wanted to mention this: you are feeding it a high protein diet and other snails/slugs/worms right? This is a Haplotrema species and won't do well on a standard snail diet of fruit and veg. It must be supplemented. oh wow i had no idea... i feel awful. i feed him fish flakes, i didn’t know his species. how can i feed him better? |
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Post by orchid on Mar 21, 2020 6:51:26 GMT
Just FYI since I don't follow your posts and don't know if it's been brought up, but wanted to mention this: you are feeding it a high protein diet and other snails/slugs/worms right? This is a Haplotrema species and won't do well on a standard snail diet of fruit and veg. It must be supplemented. i researched about it and i live in washington state, they aren’t found there? now i’m confused |
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Post by Liguus on Mar 21, 2020 12:16:48 GMT
i researched about it and i live in washington state, they aren’t found there? now i’m confused Haplotrema vancouverense is all over the wetter 1/3 of washington state, west of the cascade mtn range. |
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Post by Liguus on Mar 21, 2020 12:21:21 GMT
Just FYI since I don't follow your posts and don't know if it's been brought up, but wanted to mention this: you are feeding it a high protein diet and other snails/slugs/worms right? This is a Haplotrema species and won't do well on a standard snail diet of fruit and veg. It must be supplemented. oh wow i had no idea... i feel awful. i feed him fish flakes, i didn’t know his species. how can i feed him better? Throwing in small slugs and prey snails for it to eat would be the most natural way to make sure it's getting an optimum diet, however I know not everyone may want to do that. I don't have any first hand experience with this species in a long-term captive setting but you could try feeding raw clam meat in addition to the hydrated fish flakes and shrimp pellets from the fish section. Other potential feeding options from the pet store that might be useful are bloodworms. |
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Post by orchid on Mar 21, 2020 23:54:37 GMT
thank you! i’m a little worried... he had babies so i definitely can’t put them in with him right. will the babies eat each other? i might have to let this species into the wild as i don’t have enough research about it. i honestly thought he was a common garden snail.
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Post by Liguus on Mar 24, 2020 16:17:23 GMT
thank you! i’m a little worried... he had babies so i definitely can’t put them in with him right. will the babies eat each other? i might have to let this species into the wild as i don’t have enough research about it. i honestly thought he was a common garden snail. I don't have enough experience with hatchlings of this genus to confirm anything, but even in other common species the young are sometimes eaten. It likely wouldn't be a huge loss, only a few out of the whole clutch so you could still end up with a number of adults. I suspect if you provide lots of protein sources then they would be fine, as they aren't as aggressive in terms of predation as say, a rosy wolfsnail. |
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