baby mystery snails

[wolf]

Hi indrajit,
we can't really help without pictures in good quality. Otherwise we're lost in space and time and it's all up to speculations.

I'm sure (and littlegoldsnail, too) that one species you have belongs to the bladder snails. Physa acuta was just a guess, I don't know which Physa species occur in pet snail stores in India.

The pigmentation of bladder snails is on the mantle, not on/in the shell and is rather variable.

I can't imagine how your bladder snails are related in any way to the original mystery snail 'parents' you have.

It's all up to good, "meaningful" pictures.

Kind regards: wolf

[littlegoldsnail]

Mystery snails and bladder snails are not related. Many “common pond snails” are pretty. I have lots of wild ramshorns (which are also considered a pond snail) and some of them are stunning. Ranging from bright green with creamy streaks in their shells, to blue, bright red, pink with spots, brown, all sorts of colors. Most of them even have bright red bodies.

[littlegoldsnail]

These are all rams, yet their colors are totally different. Bladder snails can be the same way. Collect a couple from one water source and a couple from a different and they can look totally different, even if they are the same species.

[indrajit]

i hope the pic comes this time






another pic - observe the colourful apex with a unique pattern

[wolf]

Hi indrajit or indrajitmasuda,

as far as I can see, there are only "bladder snails" (Physidae: Physa spec. / Physella spec.) in your pictures, might be (!) two different species. All specimens seem to be sinistral ("left-handed"), and that is characteristic for Physidae. I cannot see any other snail family in your pics.

Can you post some good pictures of your "mystery snails" (?)?.

Kind regards: wolf

[indrajitmasuda]

yet another pic -note the colours - still at sea about their name or species

[wolf]

Dear indrajit or indrajitmasuda,

they are snails belonging to the family Physidae. It will be very difficult to name the exact species. In this family, often a dissection (genital morphology) is necessary for a valid determination of the species.

What about your "mystery snails"?

Kind regards: wolf

[indrajitmasuda]

Thanks Wolf for helping in identifying them finally and so authoritatively. No i am not disappointed, as long as they add to my understanding of nature and breed happily my purpose is served.You seem to have deep knowledge about snails. what kinds do you have. Im trying to get some rare species after the 4 golden mystery snails that survived only an year but fascinated me with their antics habits and sexuality - alas their numerous egg pods never seem to have produced a single babe. But these /bladder snails abundantly compensate.

[wolf]

Hi indrajitmasuda,

well, in fact I'm an absolute beginner. I've had Pomacea flagellata in my tank, Physa/Physella spec., Gyraulus spec., Melanoides tuberculata, Pomacea diffusa, Bithynia tentaculata, Radix spec. and Vitta usnea.

Have a nice day and much fun with your snails, kind regards: wolf

[littlegoldsnail]

They just look like some neat varieties of bladder snails.

If you are looking for a fun and weird species to keep, check out Sulawesi rabbit snails! I have one and he is super funny. They have bright yellow bodies usually and super long shells. They are livebearing snails (so they don’t lay eggs, they give birth to a fully formed snail), so they are a really interesting breeding project. Keep in mind though, they need at least 20 gallons (they can grow a whopping 4 inches long).

[indrajitmasuda]

Dear Wolf
Do send some pics of your snails with their names - for a beginner you have much knowledge. I have been keeping Fish and studying their behaviour since i was in my teens - now i am nearing 80!! Its important to have such interests to live long - if you like you can visit my blog on wordpress.com - [e-mail] - much of interest there on all issues including snails cacti buddies the soul spirituality hobbies poetry etc.

[indrajitmasuda]

dear littlegoldsnail
send me a pic of your rabbit snail
regards

[wolf]

Hi indrajitmasuda,

I'm so sorry: I don't have pictures of the freshwater snails I have kept (some years ago). Now I have only one terrestrial species. Sorry for that. You have to look for the species mentioned in the internet.

All the best for you and your pets: wolf

[indrajitmasuda]

a better pic
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[littlegoldsnail]

Here is the rabbit snail. This fella is still a juvenile though. He is not a baby, but not full grown. They take a while to reach max size.



He loves peas.

[indrajitmasuda]

he has the face of an anteater and passes feet!!

[indrajitmasuda]

ive lost interest in the bladder snails as they multiplied till they started looking like pests and have got rid of them. now i have acquired 10 juvenile golden mytery snails

[littlegoldsnail]

Yeah... bladder snails tend to have that effect. Cute at first, but when they overrun your tank... not so cute.

Awe! I love juvenile mysteries. They can be so cute. My juvenile black is growing up so fast. She’s pretty much an adult now. I would love to see pictures of yours!

[indrajitmasuda]

NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
i GOT A NEW BATCH OF GOLDEN MYSTERY SNAILS AFTER THE PREVIOUS FOUR DIED POSSIBLY OF OLD AGE. the new lot are as frisky and promiscuous as the the previous one and promptly laid eggs on the tank top. I ignored that because the last time it appears the eggs were all sterile and no young ones appeared except the pest you analised - the bladder snails kept multiplying till i was bored and got rid of them. yet a few persisted in the tank even after cleaning. Today happily when i looked with a torch i found that there were many golden shelled youngsters beside the few bladders and the egg pod looked as if it had burst open and was sending down real golden mystery babes. I am delighted that the new lot of eggs have not proved infertile. Will post pics when they grow a little larger. For now i am all joy.

[indrajitmasuda]

As i cant post pics of the babymystery snails yet because they are real small but very active foraging around with their probing antenna clearly visible - They have already grown in a few days and Im quite thrilled - there appear to be about 20, all with gold yellow shalls beside the few unwanted bladder snails (BLACK). Im posting a pic of the egg pod from which they came which has broken apart as the babes exited - there still are visible several eggs in different stages of development - they look ochre transparent in colour. The neighbouring egg pod appears sterile as it remains intact with no sign of activity.

THE TWO PODS ONE OPEN THE OTHER UNCHANGED

[indrajitmasuda]

FINALLY AFTER FAILURE WITH THE LAST BATCH OF 4 MYSTERY SNAILS WHICH LAID NUMEROUS STERILE EGGS, AND DIED WITHOUT PROGENY - ME THINKING THAT THE NUMEROUS BABY BLADDER SNAILS WERE THE PROGENY, THE JOY OF MY LIFE TO SEE THE NEW BATCH OF 3 MYSTERY SNAILS BECOME PRODUCTIVE - AT LAST NUMEROUS BABY MYSTERY SNAILS ALL OVER THE TANK - SEEING IS BELIEVING LET US REJOICE LOL.

AT LAST TANK FULL OF BABY MYSTERY SNAILS

[indrajitmasuda]

Well full success at last - the number of mystery babies are daily growing and more remarkable they are enlarging at a fast rate. I can already see the shape and golden colour of the shells and even the antenna probing around for food. Whenever i drop fish food they get to the top of the tank and line up at surface level on the edge and home in on any fish food particle. No wonder they are growing so fast they are now twice as large as the bladder snails which are tiny adults that dont grow.

A PIC OF THE FERTILE PARENTS MATING ALREADY HAVING PRODUCED THREE EGG PODS:





marriage 365

THE FAST GROWING BABIES



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Ill keep you posted of the babes as they grow.

[indrajitmasuda]

To continue in a little over two weeks the babies are thriving and looking visibly much larger. As i promised, here are some pics for the record and research;

Babes with a parent to compare sizes:







Close up of three active babes








Babe with antenna probing already

[littlegoldsnail]

They are such cuties! I’m glad they are doing good.

I hope you can find places for all of them, that many snails might be quite a handful when they are adults.

[indrajitmasuda]

Cross that bridge when i arrive there. Options first distribute in the three tanks. the snails in the 44 gallon tank are not breeding probably all one gender. In the third tank there are two egg pods - may be sterile lets see. the smallest tank has been a great success probably the three snails there are the great breeders and continuing with two pods productive and two recent ones wait and see. the pet shop is an option i can just give away to bthem free.
The few unwanted Bladder snails probably are left with nothing to forage and may thankfully soon dissapear. Or i might just get rid of them in a nearby pond when i change the water in the tank.