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Post by Love snails and slugs on Dec 5, 2020 10:07:51 GMT
For sure answer is positive for sea snails or water snails but what about landnsnails?if they have too why scienctist just talk about sea snails?
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Post by pasi9 on Dec 5, 2020 13:08:07 GMT
They definitely have feelings, but to what degree I don't know. I can tell when my snails seem stressed, or when they seem to be enjoying their food, or when they seem curious about their surroundings.
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Post by slugs on Dec 5, 2020 14:06:25 GMT
For sure answer is positive for sea snails or water snails but what about landnsnails?if they have too why scienctist just talk about sea snails? I think they’re definitely quite intelligent creatures. Maybe not in a conventional sense but they’re definitely capable of associative learning. For example, I always put the food in the same spot in the tank. When my boy Deximr is getting hungry, he goes to that spot every time, regardless of whether or not there’s food there. He also has learned that when the lid comes off, that means there’s good stuff coming. He’ll often wake up and wait for me to come say hello. He definitely also seems to have feelings. He reacts differently to different foods, and always runs to new things in the tank, as if he’s excited to check it out. As for the stress, though, while I cannot personally attest to it, I am very positive they can from other posts here. |
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Post by daniele on Dec 7, 2020 11:48:04 GMT
For sure answer is positive for sea snails or water snails but what about landnsnails?if they have too why scienctist just talk about sea snails? I think they’re definitely quite intelligent creatures. Maybe not in a conventional sense but they’re definitely capable of associative learning. For example, I always put the food in the same spot in the tank. When my boy Deximr is getting hungry, he goes to that spot every time, regardless of whether or not there’s food there. He also has learned that when the lid comes off, that means there’s good stuff coming. He’ll often wake up and wait for me to come say hello. He definitely also seems to have feelings. He reacts differently to different foods, and always runs to new things in the tank, as if he’s excited to check it out. As for the stress, though, while I cannot personally attest to it, I am very positive they can from other posts here. This is very true, and I want to add some more observations: my first and most beloved guy, last year, learned the exact hour in which I was going to open her the lid to let her out to walk some hours free, and exactly at 9 pm, she would wait in the front of the lid, watching it but not stepping on it, just checking and waiting for the lid to be opened! Still abt learning I can tell that I freed them all on the balcony this spring, and they learned very well the difference in the "environments" I made for them,; there are different areas with different temperatures and moisture that they use depending on the weather conditions by themselves (and I am 90% sure, that a couple of them even learned how to escape from the balcony and how to be back ahahah).. Abt their "feelings" there are some who are very friendly to humans, and other that are very scared: my first guy I always greet her every day, by placing a finger nearby, and she will notice and will come close to greet me with her tantacles and when she want she take a ride on my hands and sit and stay bit to be pet...so cute Also they like to hang out with some guys especially, and now that i have many in a bit big environment it is very nice to observe their preferences abt friend and the groups they form! A very cute (although a bit sad) thing to see was that two of my guys that used to be besties, totally changed attitude towards each other after one of them began to mate continously and to hang out with another one..the first appeared kind of "jealous" and formed another group with other mates in the following period! Of course the antropomorphized explanations that we give to these behaviours are not correct, but also it is not correct to think that they are just like walking clams...they are absolutely not like clams or mussels, and are much more complex instead! (apologize for the bad english but I am writing it quickly and I have no time to revise and correct) |
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Post by pasi9 on Dec 9, 2020 17:46:08 GMT
daniele I've noticed "friendships" between my snails too! They're definitely social creatures.
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Post by daniele on Dec 10, 2020 11:04:14 GMT
Yes they are in some way for real! Although they are not properly social animals like wolves or monkeys or others, and they don't form any pack or herd (but they do resemble grazing cows when they are eating all in line hahahaha so adorable), I really think by watching them that they have actually some social dynamics.. It could be seen even when I only had 4 guys, but now that I have maybe 100 it is shown many times in many different ways!
Btw, according to what I can see, they also need some moments to spend alone, they like to be on their own sometimes!
It would be amazing to find any paper to read abt their "social behaviours", but I was never able to find any..so if anybody knows where to find some, if some exist, and want to link it, it would be awesome!
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Post by lla on Dec 11, 2020 18:39:42 GMT
I think snails definitely have some f feelings but I've read a couple articles that state they don't have feelings as we think feelings are. They can feel stress and the feeling of being fulfilled and happy but not the emotions such as empathy, sadness, sorrow etc.
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