apple
Archachatina degneri
Posts: 1,078
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 20:52:35 GMT
Post by apple on Jan 11, 2006 20:52:35 GMT
In my tanks, when food lay on the compost only for 2 days , the food( like fruits) get some fungus. Should I have to remove them immediatly? I know that Giant Snails are usually scavengers, but I´m not used to let things there go like that lool. That´s a difficult question: extremely clean tanks or a bit forgotten ones that should rule...
apple ( not rotten yet) ;D
|
|
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 20:59:46 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 11, 2006 20:59:46 GMT
lol, @ your name
I think that we should allow some foods to go a little rotton, not so rotton that it starts turning to liquid (eew) but it might be good for the snails to take in a little bacteria, just make sure there are no fly larvae or creepy crawlies on it :-)
|
|
Val
Archachatina dimidiata
Posts: 2,498
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 21:01:24 GMT
Post by Val on Jan 11, 2006 21:01:24 GMT
This is a difficult question isn't it apple, unless someone actually lets their snails eat fungus to see if it harms them we shall never know. Personally I wouldn't be prepared to let them eat it although fruit fungus is supposedly harmless. As you say it depends which kind of set up you are prepared to have and also it makes you wonder which is better are we in fact putting them more at risk by being too protective and clean. Let us know what you decide to do...........
Val
|
|
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 21:10:07 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 11, 2006 21:10:07 GMT
this isn't really to do with this thread, but i think snails should be brought up with a bit of dirt (by dirt i mean, fungus, mould, unheigenic conditions) to build up a slight immunity, so that when thye are older they are stronger and able to fight off slight infections easier.
But it is tough
|
|
Arno
Archachatina puylaerti
Posts: 1,493
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 21:11:35 GMT
Post by Arno on Jan 11, 2006 21:11:35 GMT
I've seen my snails eating fruit that was a few days old and had some fungus on it,the only problem it gives is that the gnats and fruitflies like it too.As always its best to find a some sort of compromise,or in other words you don't have to give them fresh food every day but don't let it rot.
|
|
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 21:15:24 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 11, 2006 21:15:24 GMT
maybe vegetables are better, as the flies seem to be more attracted to fruit as it goes mouldy quicker.
|
|
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 21:51:45 GMT
Post by section8angel on Jan 11, 2006 21:51:45 GMT
Mine had some food start going mouldy, and they totally ignored it. They ate around it lol
|
|
apple
Archachatina degneri
Posts: 1,078
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 23:26:02 GMT
Post by apple on Jan 11, 2006 23:26:02 GMT
lol, @ your name I think that we should allow some foods to go a little rotton, not so rotton that it starts turning to liquid (eew) but it might be good for the snails to take in a little bacteria, just make sure there are no fly larvae or creepy crawlies on it :-) My name is known to belong to a fruit that when is rotten and is eaten, it makes you drunk. Actually is a fact, some mooses were seen in Sweden on that situation lool, when they started to eat rotten apples from a garden, and they stayed there for days feasting on it and being drunk all the time. ;D The police had to go there and it took a long, long time to put them away from there. Oh, well, I´m scaping from this matter lool. I agree with you, sometimes I leave food pieces to rot a bit, and I never let them be liquid lool. That´s quite yaacc lol. About the fly larvae, well, despite we don´t want to see this damn crawlies on our tanks, they can be eaten as well by snails, they( snails) actually love some alive and fresh proteins and fats LOOL. I once saw one crawlie being eaten by a snail LMAO...
|
|
apple
Archachatina degneri
Posts: 1,078
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 23:30:12 GMT
Post by apple on Jan 11, 2006 23:30:12 GMT
This is a difficult question isn't it apple, unless someone actually lets their snails eat fungus to see if it harms them we shall never know. Personally I wouldn't be prepared to let them eat it although fruit fungus is supposedly harmless. As you say it depends which kind of set up you are prepared to have and also it makes you wonder which is better are we in fact putting them more at risk by being too protective and clean. Let us know what you decide to do........... Val It´s a very tough matter Val. I´ll maybe choose between these 2 options , i.e, not being too fussy with rotten fruit but also, not letting the rot food on the tank for a long period.
|
|
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 23:30:14 GMT
Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 23:30:14 GMT
Actually is a fact, some mooses were seen in Sweden on that situation lool, when they started to eat rotten apples from a garden, and they stayed there for days feasting on it and being drunk all the time. ; That is true of a lot of animals. Wasps getting drunk on apples, Elephants and opium, hedgehogs and creosote and cig butts (they are nicotine tolerant, it makes them froth at the mouth and they seem to love it) to name a few off the top of my head.
|
|
apple
Archachatina degneri
Posts: 1,078
|
fungus
Jan 11, 2006 23:43:23 GMT
Post by apple on Jan 11, 2006 23:43:23 GMT
I know that also jaguar eat a herb that makes them see better and feel like... lol High. I saw once one stoned with that, he just layed on the ground like if was trying to sleep, with the belly faced to the sky, and with his eyes wide opened. LOL
|
|
|
fungus
Jan 12, 2006 9:38:52 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Jan 12, 2006 9:38:52 GMT
yes a few big cats eat this herb, it makes them turn into big kittens and they start to roll around and play, hehe About the hedgehogs, i think what they do is chew cigarette butts which makes them froth at the mouth and then they rub it onto their spikes, it helps kill off annoying pests, monkeys do it and cappuchin (sp?) monkeys like to rub garlic all over their bodies, the reason unknown :-)
|
|
apple
Archachatina degneri
Posts: 1,078
|
fungus
Jan 12, 2006 18:26:20 GMT
Post by apple on Jan 12, 2006 18:26:20 GMT
yes a few big cats eat this herb, it makes them turn into big kittens and they start to roll around and play, hehe About the hedgehogs, i think what they do is chew cigarette butts which makes them froth at the mouth and then they rub it onto their spikes, it helps kill off annoying pests, monkeys do it and cappuchin (sp?) monkeys like to rub garlic all over their bodies, the reason unknown :-) Yes, you are right, actually some birds ( crow species and similar birds ( Corvus sp)) do the same, disturbing ants, and then ants climb to the bird killing it´s parasites. I know cappuchin monkeys they are truly amazing and smart but didn´t knew about that aspect ehehe, but i´m laughing when I imagine about it... ;D
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
fungus
Jan 13, 2006 10:27:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2006 10:27:42 GMT
snails can digest fungus(well i know at least one can):
Marsh snails (Littoraria irrorata), which are abundant in salt marshes along the southeast coast of the United States, primarily live on fungi that grow on dead plant material but they also were recently observed grazing on live cordgrass (Spartina alterniflora). According to a study by ecologists Brian Silliman and Steven Newall published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2003, the snails do not, however, actually eat the live plant material but dine on the fungi growing on cordgrass leaves. But the leaves don't just serve up this food on green platters. Instead, the snails use their radula—a tonguelike organ—to cut wounds into leaf surfaces, enabling fungi to invade and thrive in the wounds. In fact, Silliman and Newall found that, compared to uninjured leaves, wounded leaves carried 15 times more fungi by weight.
The snails also appear to actively promote the fungi's invasion of the wounds by depositing their fecal pellets, which are full of both nitrogen and fungal hyphae, on the wounds. In the same study, adding fecal pellets to leaves with experimentally induced wounds increased the weight of fungi by 171 percent! Moreover, lab experiments revealed that snails grew hardly at all on uninjured leavesand nearly half of all juveniles tested died on diets of uninjured leaveswhile snails grew and most juveniles survived with access to radulated, fungi- rich leaves.
|
|