Danielle .aka. snaillover31

[Paul]

I just wanted to say that I think we need to give snaillover31 a chance.

I know many people on here were thinking she could be the infamous charlotte using yet another alias but that isn't the case. Her IP tracks to California and in her correspondence to me privately she does seem genuine so I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt.

Danielle, you probably think people on here aren't being very welcoming, but as I explained to you, we're all very wary because of a troublesome poster we had, whose early comments were styled similar to yours but then became abusive. It's just an unfortunate coincidence.

Under normal circumstances, the users of the forum are a very friendly bunch who can't do enough to help and offer advice as I'm sure you'll soon see.

[snaillover31]

happy tears

thank u everyone!!!!

[lippy]

I apologise for whatever offence you have taken, i'll hug you! (Nah, i'm not a predator.)

[Paul]

Well, guest posting has finally been disabled. I'm so sick of all these pathetic games. If the abuse continues I'll be forced to turn on moderator approval of new accounts.

snailover31, you've abused my trust and I suspect you knew Charlotte all along. Stay away from this forum!

Charlotte, I'm compiling a record of all your activity which I will send to your ISP so they can shut your account down. I work with ISPs and they don't tolerate behavior like this, it simply isn't worth the risk to them. EDIT - it looks like snaillover31 is pretending to be charlotte to annoy us, so in fact this report will go to your ISP.

Why don't you both start a forum of your own, where you can trash-talk to each other all day, and stay away from people who are actually interested in something. I don't know what you get out of it. I can only conclude your lives are so empty that annoying a few people on an online forum is the highlight of your day and probably the most you'll ever accomplish.

It's pathetic...

[Kelz]

Paul, may I also bring it to your attention that we had a few problems with Charlotte on Bugnation, she joined several times under various user names such as Tinkerbelle etc etc. Charlotte also made auction bids and classifieds under several names. Aswell as making several ridiculous off topic chat threads. This young girl caused various problems to many members and also posted pretending to be her mother.

[lippy]

Thanks for taking my advice and contacting her isp, it should do alot of good!

[Joshuaa]

I hope that both of they're Computers mysteriously blow up and kill them both

[lippy]

jakerneox said:

I hope that both of they're Computers mysteriously blow up and kill them both

Too far....

[jmurphy]

Lippy, just wondered, are you a moderator?

[LisaLQ]

Come on guys - let's give it a rest now. Jmurphy, I get the feeling you're enjoying stoking the fire somewhat - perhaps time to take a step back and remember why we're here, chatting about snails. Let's get back to discussions, not arguments, everyone

[gastropodgirl]

Sod Charlotte or which member of her family she feels like being today,bloody imbecile she is,Ive had tooooooo much of a good time to give a toss anymore.

[LisaLQ]

We're all sick of Charlotte, but winding her up to make her post more isn't doing the site any favours. Some of us are just as saddened by the recent behaviour of those gloating at how much arguing there is on here at the moment. Let's give it a rest now.

[jmurphy]

I'm sorry that you feel that way about me Lisalq, but you have got the total wrong end of the stick.

I did actually report Charlotte/Snailover31/Danielle long before HER/HIS posts started getting out of hand... but everyone wanted to give her a chance... despite the fact that she was actually PM'g stupid messages to me. How anyone could have believed a word she said is beyond me... snail falling 2 storeys etc...

I only posted answers back when she directed at me, and actual facts.

[LisaLQ]

I dont think I named anyone I was personally upset with, but yes - I do think you went over the top. If you suspect someone is a troll - inform a mod like we've asked you all to many times. Then ignore them. Dont go on stoking the fire, winding them up and then boasting about how wonderful you are for getting it right. It's just as childish as the trolls, and offputting to new members.

[Joshuaa]

Hehe I think the term 'Troll' is a good name for them
Sorry if i went a bit over the top aswell Lisa... I just get a bit carried away sometimes =[
I promise if there is ever another argument then I will not get involved =]

[LisaLQ]

No need to apologise, anyone. I'm just trying to show that it's just as frustrating for some of us - not only to put up with the sad troll, but to try and diffuse things and show people that reacting only makes things even worse.

I cant possibly judge anyone for this - I've been guilty of it in the past, but it just doesn't work. And it makes more work for us mods, who have to check many many more posts, deleting accusations and attacks from both sides - when it would have been much simpler just to pm a mod, or post on here saying "She's back!" with a link - rather than following them around bickering and making the situation worse.

Please folks, if you see her post again - dont reply. Just dont. Ignore her, and post a message on here or pm a mod, and let us deal with it.

[lippy]

jmurphy said:

Lippy, just wondered, are you a moderator?

I don't know if that's sarcastic, or just a general question, i have been on other forums, yes.

[jmurphy]

Was just trying to make conversation with you Lippy, there was no offence intended.

[spook]

As regards to our unwanted posters.......(snailover/charlotte,etc)
read this,it describes it perfectly!......
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=forum+troll

;D ;D

[lippy]

spook said:

As regards to our unwanted posters.......(snailover/charlotte,etc)
read this,it describes it perfectly!......
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=forum+troll

;D ;D

I think Flamebait would be a better description. Oh and to Jmurphy, sorry, i 'll have a conversation with you in pm if like.

[jmurphy]

lisalq said:

Come on guys - let's give it a rest now. Jmurphy, I get the feeling you're enjoying stoking the fire somewhat - perhaps time to take a step back and remember why we're here, chatting about snails. Let's get back to discussions, not arguments, everyone

Just felt the need to point out that you did specifically name me LisaLQ, because you said in a later post that you didnt actually name anyone that you were personally upset with.

And, yes, I took it extremely personally. For you to point the finger at me as if I am some sort of troublemaker/instigator is a very upsetting thing to have done. There were many posts made on that evening and I was merely trying to make light of the whole situation. As I said before, I did report this person to a moderator, as you asked, and there were moderators on that evening, chatting in the "off topic" section.

I rcvd many personal pm's from snailover/charlotte, whatever her/his name was and none of them were nice. I was not the only person posting that evening and I dont think I did anything wrong, apart from uncover, yet another spoof.

[LisaLQ]

Yes, you're right, I did name you personally - forgive me for getting that bit confused. I checked the post count about Charlotte, and you'd made 18 or 19 posts about her out of your roughly 40 at the time. Obviously now, there's a couple more. I think that is excessive, when the mods have asked folks to ignore her. I dont see that as a personal attack, more of a suggestion - time to take a step back, calm down, and show you're the adult. If you find that offensive, I'm very sorry - but I find it also offensive that folks have been asked to ignore the troll, we'll deal with it, and yet still felt the need to badger them for an argument instead.

I really do think that everyone here who's peed off with this lass are the adults. I just think some of us need reminding to act like them

[kab]

this all seems such a shame that because of one nutty fruitloop the decent members are going to end up leaving , i have to say i find it very difficult NOT to respond to her , i have put up with her screwing up my ebay auctions , emailing pretending to be foreign wanting tiger snails , p'ming asking for snails , watched her use a friends id for bidding with , and other ids on here for her stupid games and also got an undeserved neutral feedback from her for something she never intended to pay for , i think she deserves every gobful and every snidy remark she gets , and while i see where that causes the mods problems and im sorry for that ,if shes not on here causing c**p shes at it behind the scenes with her ridiculous games sorry to rant but im cross shes spoiling an important part of peoples hobbies , if you are looking in madam i do know your address and could pass it to the police for harrasment
karen

[jmurphy]

As I stated in my previous post, I wasnt badgering her/him for an argument... it is not in my nature, nor do I feel the need to badger anybody, but I will make my point, whether people like it or not... she/he posted several personal pm's to me which were definately not snail related... and I did inform a moderator, who said we should all give her/him a fair chance.

Fair chance to harass us who are truly interested in snails? I have far more pressing things to worry about than some silly troll, and I am reminded every single day that I am an adult, but I thank you for reminding me tonight tho.

[spook]

Have to agree with karen i'm afraid! It is hard to ignore her,she was also pm'ing me asking if i sold snails saying i was mean....bla,bla,bla.....
to be honest if we hadn't have kept responding to her the other evening she probably wouldn't have admitted to being Charlotte/snailover/jennifer! At least we got a result and outed her!