coyote
Archachatina papyracea
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Post by coyote on Oct 7, 2009 6:57:51 GMT
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malti
Achatina achatina
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Post by malti on Oct 7, 2009 11:51:00 GMT
Coltro is right and wrong....right in the fact that Achatina Fulica yes can become a pest, and wrong in that he thinks he can ban it - there should be some form of control but not ban
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Post by Bumblebee on Oct 7, 2009 17:50:10 GMT
Agree, it shouldnt be banned to have snails, or any other kind of animal specie like reptiles etc... Instead, people need to be educated, HOW to treat the animals, and IF they would get tired of them, or get unwanted babies, how to Properly well.... don't really want to say dispose of them, but can't think of anything better at the moment. Animals can easy become more or less of a pest, or just a burden like with street cats -and dogs. Would be great if just something simple, at a childs level, could be tought at school at early age. Dosn't have to be anything complicated or something that takes alot of time from the other schoolwork, just something easy as learning the kids to research the animal they like before getting it and telling them to give it/sell it to someone (private person, shelters etc), or in worse case scenario, let a vet. put it to sleep. Cause even euthanization (did I get that word correct? ), is better than just tossing the animals out of the home.
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malti
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Post by malti on Oct 7, 2009 17:58:52 GMT
Agree, it shouldnt be banned to have snails, or any other kind of animal specie like reptiles etc... Instead, people need to be educated, HOW to treat the animals, and IF they would get tired of them, or get unwanted babies, how to Properly well.... don't really want to say dispose of them, but can't think of anything better at the moment. Animals can easy become more or less of a pest, or just a burden like with street cats -and dogs. Would be great if just something simple, at a childs level, could be tought at school at early age. Dosn't have to be anything complicated or something that takes alot of time from the other schoolwork, just something easy as learning the kids to research the animal they like before getting it and telling them to give it/sell it to someone (private person, shelters etc), or in worse case scenario, let a vet. put it to sleep. Cause even euthanization (did I get that word correct? ), is better than just tossing the animals out of the home. u got euthanization right...but you should use teaching the kids as you're "talking" from the teachers view... I would think a rep. census should be done, no taxes involved, and each breeder/keeper given a number and certificate, to pass on to whoever he sells/gives, so all reps and other exotic animals can be accounted for. This would be done on a long period say 5-10yrs, and after that all exotic animals with no papers will become illegal. also for the papers, one must show the enclosures and a simple test should be given per species.
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coyote
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Post by coyote on Oct 7, 2009 21:35:40 GMT
The sense I got from reading the article was that the author seemed to think the problem stemmed from the people who were farming snails for food, not the pet snail enthusiasts. I could understand banning snail farming for agricultural purposes but still allowing pet snails for individual people not doing it as a business.
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aerliss
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Post by aerliss on Oct 7, 2009 23:05:52 GMT
I think the problem of released snails would be more likely to come from enthusiasts (or not-so-enthusiasts), rather than farming... but then, say if a farmer had a large 'crop' and had no buyers, would he destroy them, release them, leave them to rot?
I can understand the banning option; ban ownership completely and the chances of infestation drop to almost 0. But banning will never work 100% because some people will still want to keep them and find ways. Unfortunately, due to the way in which they reproduce, snails can become far more of a burden on a lac and lazy owner than say a snake or a crocodile.
It comes down to which option is the least likely to have people dumping hatchlings; banning or education? Do they go for a compromise, like in Canada; allow but only with a permit (education)? But then you've allowed them into the country and, again, because they are prolific little breeders, chances are people without permits will get them and... well, there will be more babies.
Very, very difficult.
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