the front part. the main hole where you would retract into.
Yesterday evening, the adult snail was moving around and a little snail was in the front part of the shell. the adult snail appeared agitated. I used a pen to pry the little snail out and off.
this morning the adult snail was upside down (I know, not good) and there were three babies that had crawled into the front of the shell. The adult had retracted into the shell.
I got the little snails out of the shell and set him back down on a piece of lettuce and had to get to a meeting. And I swear as if it didn't look like one of the little ones was trying to get in there again.
The adult snail remained retracted in his shell and was once again surrounded by the baby snails. Some up inside the shell. I gently removed the babies and put down new food. I put the adult down on top of a lettuce leaf. [That was last night] When I looked at him this morning (Tuesday) he had not moved and was once again surrounded by the babies.
The other adult snail came out and ate last night and appeared to be left alone by the little ones. This morning he was in his usual spot hanging at the top corner of the tank.
Why don't you put the snail that is being harrassed into a temporary enclosure? I never leave animals that are picking on each other together. No offense, but that seems like the most obvious solution to me.
Yeah I`d second that. I keep a lot of snakes aswell as snails and I wouldn`t be able to relax if I thought I couldn`t just seperate one of them at the drop of a hat because things happen,problems occur. Good luck with that though ! snails are great aren`t they? I find myself watching them snail about they`re tank quite a lot ! lol
Guys, thanks for all of the help... I separated the adult but unfortunately I think he has passed. Their is a distinct odor coming from him and he has not moved. ;(
I released the babies and juveniles last night. I put them at the edge of a tree line (they are grove snails), included the substrate from their tank and a little extra, i bought a cinder block as a base for their shelter, and of course left them with some lettuce, carrots, and cuttle bones.
I guess the question is: Was the adult snail sick to begin with and the little ones came to aid or comfort? (Quite touching...)
Or did the little ones cause the death? (Quite scary...) I never saw the little ones trying to eat the adult. They just congregated and crawled inside him???
My son's original snail "Gary" (the other adult) is once again all by himself but apparently healthy and doing well. We will have had him for one year in October.
That seems very strange. I don't know how the babies could've killed him...unless he was 'traumatized' to death by the babies crawling on him...but I've never heard of that happening before. Snails probably get things crawling on them in the wild.
Maybe a baby crawled into the pneumostome and he suffocated?
A weekend trip to Nashville and I come back with a new tank mate for Gary. A juvenile garden snail dubbed "Nash". Now he's not alone any longer. (I didn't leave one of the prior baby/juveniles for Gary because I didn't know which ones might "attack" him as they did with Morris.)
Thanks! Nash is still going strong one week later. His shell is a little clear. However, he has been eating the cuttlebone regularly so hopefully that will start helping him.
It was funny... Nash usually stays in a tiny plastic overturned bowl within the tank. The other day I noticed that he had climbed all the way to the top corner of the tank. Gary (the adult and about 10 times bigger) stayed a couple inches below him. I was glad Gary didn't steamroll on top of him (possibly smothering or crushing him) to take his traditional top of the tank corner spot!
I recall a situation like this happening with my old fulicas. A very old snail was apparently in the process of dying and was attracting little ones, as well as adult ones, to it. I suspected that some cannibalism in the form of carrion eating happened, because when I eventually removed the dead snail it was kind of lighter than I had expected it to be. But it would depend on the species I think, whether they are omnivores or not.
Edit: Ugh, 2008... I totally read 2011 and thought I'm not necromancing too much. Sorry...
Post by kikiandhersnails on Apr 27, 2012 17:24:02 GMT
I have not heard of this before, but outside in the woods around my house, I have found old snail shells from snails that have passed on, and quite a few times when looking inside found several small babies inside crawling around. And there is nothing left of the bigger snail. Even once I found a snail shell that had been mutilated by a bird, and there where at least five babies inside. I don't get it