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Post by kristensaurr on Oct 18, 2010 5:12:15 GMT
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I have three helix aspersas wild caught from my friend's backyard. I have had them for a while now and they are very happy with me. I love them very much.
Today, I adopted three more snails from under a rock on a rainy day from the same friend's backyard. Google informed me that they are Oxychilus cellarius. They're blue c:
I want to know if I can house a helix aspersa and Oxychilus cellarius together. They are from the same backyard. Wild caught.
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Post by 101100101111 on Oct 18, 2010 15:29:36 GMT
I don't see why not, as in the wild they would share an environment... just make sure that when feeding one species or individual doesn't get it all and stops the others.
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Post by coyote on Oct 18, 2010 20:29:20 GMT
I keep aspersas and Oxychilus together in the same tank. The Oxychilus need more protein than the aspersas (I give fish flakes, soaked cat kibble and unwanted snail eggs in addition to the usual fruit and veg), otherwise the care is the same.
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Post by kristensaurr on Oct 18, 2010 23:05:32 GMT
coyote: Alright cool c: Thank you very much. I will try to soaked cat kibble, is there any one brand better than just can NOT be used? Because I feed my cat (who eats rats and squirrels and birds against my will in addition to his kibble) the cheapest kind in the store >.< That will suffice, right?
@101: I don't think them getting enough food will be a problem. I definitely give them more than enough food. c:
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Post by coyote on Oct 19, 2010 18:54:24 GMT
I'm not a big fan of the cheapest brands of pet food. They are usually have the most contaminants and the worst ingredients. If you put junk into your pet, you can't expect optimal health. Your cat is probably eating wildlife to help get enough good nutrients missing from over-processed commercial food. So I don't recommend giving the cheapest pet food to any animal, dog, cat or snail.
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Post by crossless on Oct 19, 2010 19:08:48 GMT
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Post by morningcoffee on Oct 19, 2010 20:37:37 GMT
I'm not a big fan of the cheapest brands of pet food. They are usually have the most contaminants and the worst ingredients. If you put junk into your pet, you can't expect optimal health. Your cat is probably eating wildlife to help get enough good nutrients missing from over-processed commercial food. So I don't recommend giving the cheapest pet food to any animal, dog, cat or snail. I agree. Cheap cat food tends to contain things like high ash content, cereals, eggs, and all sorts of other things. Cats need to eat meat, therefore it's far better for your pet's health to feed it food with a high real meat content - which unfortunately tends to be more expensive. As coyote said, it may be that your cat is killing and eating prey in order to get essential nutrition that he/she isn't getting from the pet food supplied. |
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Post by kristensaurr on Oct 20, 2010 1:20:52 GMT
I doubt it. I've got the neighborhood cat and everyone in town feeds my fat baby <3, including one of my neighbors who gives all of her cats the best of the best. He's been killing and bringing home dead animals his entire life, and he doesn't always eat them. Just recently he brought home a squirrel that had nothing except for the bite marks meant to kill it.
Trust me, poor nutrition is the least of my cat's problems. The damn thing sleeps in the middle of the road and fights dogs.
I looooove him <3
But I am not looking for a lecture on the nutritional benefits of the cat food that I cannot afford. If the cheap catfood in my garage is not an option, and will harm the snails, then I will use something else. If it is better than nothing, then I will use it.
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Post by coyote on Oct 20, 2010 20:38:44 GMT
The nutritional superiority of the brands you cannot afford is still relevant whether or not you can afford them. Can you afford a huge vet bill for treatment if your cat develops cancer, kidney disease or diabetes in the future? It's a much smaller price to pay to buy the highest-quality food right now, believe me.
The vet of my previous cat said that the rise of lymphoma in cats he had seen was probably due to the preservatives in the cheap food. The preservatives actually changed the tissues of the intestinal lining, making them cancerous.
Even if there are no preservatives listed on the label, the quality of the ingredients is usually poor in the cheap brands. It's like eating junk food all the time -- there is no real nutrition there. You cannot maintain optimal health by eating low-quality food. There are no two ways about it.
These are not frivolous issues. We are what we eat, and that's equally true for our pets, whether they are cats, hamsters, lizards or snails. My snails eat the same organically-grown, pesticide-free fruit and veg as I do, and all my pets get filtered tap water, same as I do as well.
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Post by kristensaurr on Oct 23, 2010 0:41:06 GMT
My cat is 11 years old, 17 pounds, and in top shape. I took him to the vet a month ago, and all the little kitty nurses swooned over him the entire time. He's such a ladies' man <3 ;D I don't worry about him. Thank you for your concern, though. If he was dying and I was unaware as to why you would be very helpful. But he's quite the healthy old man and is living a full life.
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