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Post by SnailsPace on Mar 21, 2011 10:55:23 GMT
I was close lol
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Post by vikingsnail on Mar 21, 2011 17:18:46 GMT
Do the pumpkin seeds need to be shelled? I've got some, but I'm not sure how to feed them. Don't feel bad SnailsPace, it's not your fault! He was lovely and healthy when he got here, I feel like I must have done something wrong but I can't think of anything that isn't right He's still no better, and I'm getting even more worried as Martha fell from the lid today Although she's been totally fine recently so I'm just getting more and more confused ...
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Post by coyote on Mar 22, 2011 16:53:10 GMT
As far as I know, the seeds do need to be shelled. I usually just put organic, unsalted, shelled seeds whole into the tank, and the snails rasp away at them as much as they like. Sometimes they wear the seeds down to a tiny nub, other times they ignore them. Some people way their snails like the seeds ground up, but I've never bothered with that.
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Post by vikingsnail on Mar 24, 2011 16:33:23 GMT
Sorry I haven't updated you for a bit, I've had alot on and there's been no change As always he's retracted, hard to wake up, inactive and not eating I tried with the pumpkin seeds but he hasn't eaten any of them. To be honest I'm amazed he's lasted this long given how little he has eaten - since I started this topic the most I've seen him eat was a tiny bit of fish flakes and a tiny nibble of lettuce I'll keep on trying!
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Post by SnailsPace on Mar 24, 2011 19:09:05 GMT
Does he seem to be losing weight? As in more retracted? I've not heard back about how his sister is so I assume she's fine. I can't think of anything else to try, except maybe lower the temp a bit more. Fingers crossed (still)
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Post by vikingsnail on Mar 25, 2011 19:12:34 GMT
No, that's the odd thing - he's always retracted but sometimes it's more than others, and it appears to be quite random Just like sometimes he wakes up almost straight away, other days it takes forever. It doesn't seem to be getting worse, but not getting better either. The few times I've seen him fully extended he does look a tiny bit slimmer than he first did, but he still doesn't really look skinny for his shell. The temperature has been roughly 23 for the past few days, and I would have thought that a snail could get used to a fewer degrees warmer/cooler in the time he's been here now?
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Post by vikingsnail on Mar 30, 2011 12:17:40 GMT
Things are getting worse Arthur still hasn't eaten - it's coming up for 3 weeks now. He's getting further retracted, and even harder to wake up. And now Martha hasn't eaten in a few days either She's still active and hasn't retracted atall, but I'm starting to worry that whatever is wrong with Arthur is contagious and maybe it's been passed on to Martha I just wish there was something more I could do.. I've tried so many different kinds of foods, cooked, raw, mashed.. nothing is tempting them, even green beans which is Martha's favourite she ignored The humidity and temperature are all what they should be so I really doubt it's their environment that's causing this but I'm willing to try anything now. I keep telling myself I'm doing all I can but it's just not working
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Post by SnailsPace on Mar 30, 2011 16:41:22 GMT
I hate to say it but I don't think Arthur will get better As for Martha, keep trying to tempt her. I didn't know snails had any diseases, have always read that. Maybe she's just having quiet time? Or is now too cool?
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Post by vikingsnail on Mar 30, 2011 17:37:00 GMT
I don't think it's too cool - I haven't lowered the temp any more, it's generally 24 ish, when it was a little lower it didn't appear to make any difference to Arthur, he's been pretty much the same no matter what the temperature has been I think you're right about Arthur unless there's some kind of miraculous recovery I guess I just need to keep my fingers crossed with Martha now .. I suppose it is possible that she's about to lay eggs or something (I know, iredalei aren't supposed to lay eggs, try telling that to Martha!) - when she's done that before she's had a few days of inactivity/not eating, then goes right back to normal. Although usually when that happens she tends to try to seal herself in, which isn't happening at the moment.
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Post by coyote on Mar 30, 2011 19:57:35 GMT
Sadly, I think that Arthur won't get better. I'm so sorry. I don't recall seeing anything that indicates deep retraction is a contagious condition. It may be genetic, or caused by environmental factors, or something else no one knows yet. But I recall hearing of people with one snail lost to deep retraction and their others were fine.
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Post by vikingsnail on Mar 30, 2011 20:49:23 GMT
I was wondering since I have a spare tank and some heat mats handy whether seperating them could help at all? Even if it's not contagious (well if it was it would probably be too late by now) could Martha be getting down so to speak due to an ill snail in the tank? Or would the loneliness be worse?
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Post by coyote on Mar 31, 2011 20:05:18 GMT
If it was my snail, I would go ahead and try separating them.
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Post by vikingsnail on Apr 2, 2011 16:30:21 GMT
Well they're in seperate tanks now, but nothing's changed. Arthur is still inactive and not eating, Martha is still active and not eating I'll let you know if anything changes...
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Post by SnailsPace on Apr 2, 2011 17:12:49 GMT
Have you tried her with wet fish flakes?
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Post by vikingsnail on Apr 2, 2011 17:26:26 GMT
She's got some at the moment which I've just put her by but it's very difficult to tell whether she's actually eating them! I'll keep a close watch though.
One thing I have started to notice with both snails is they seem to have slightly thicker, slightly whiter slime. I haven't seen much of it and have only noticed it recently, but I don't know if that's a sign of anything?
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Post by vikingsnail on Apr 8, 2011 10:31:53 GMT
Some sad news - I woke up this morning to find Arthur dead He was such a wonderful snail for the short time I knew him, I feel so bad even though I know I did everything I could I'm so sorry SnailsPace As for Martha, I'm still concerned about her. She's still relatively active although she still hasn't eaten. Although she has started to try to seal herself in - which in a strange way I'm taking as a positive as it really looks like she might have eggs in her, and she's done this before. Previously she's gone through phases of sealing herself in for a little while, then laying some infertile eggs and after that she's returned to normal. So fingers crossed this will happen.
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Post by coyote on Apr 8, 2011 16:28:39 GMT
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Rest in peace, Arthur.
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Post by SnailsPace on Apr 8, 2011 19:50:24 GMT
Oh no! That's such a shame, but at least he's not suffering any more. Don't be sorry, you did more than alot of people would have done and I woulodn't think twice about sending you another snail. I hope Martha hurries up and has her dud eggs so you can stop worrying! Let us know how she gets on x
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Post by vikingsnail on Apr 18, 2011 13:49:18 GMT
Just thought I'd keep you updated on Martha. She's eaten a little recently, but unfortunately no real improvement I worry that she's lonely but I don't want to introduce a new snail until I'm certain she's healthy
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Post by coyote on Apr 19, 2011 22:36:14 GMT
Glad she ate a little, that's always a good sign.
I think it's wise to wait to be certain she's healthy, even if she might be a little lonely.
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Post by snailysnuggles on Apr 20, 2011 14:17:20 GMT
Keep up the good wok, healing vibes are on their way.
Jo xx
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Post by vikingsnail on Apr 23, 2011 12:22:05 GMT
When I checked on Martha this morning, she was a little retracted It was only by a few millimeters, but I'm concerned she's going to go the same way as Arthur.. I managed to wake her up with a bath but it took a while. When she's out, she looks ok, but she doesn't stay out for very long and is pretty inactive. As far as I know, unless I wake her up with a bath she stays in her shell the rest of the time. She still isn't really eating either
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Post by SnailsPace on Apr 23, 2011 16:16:30 GMT
Could it be too hot during the day with heat mat on? I really hope she does recover especially after Arthur died. I have known snails to die in pairs within a short space of time but don't know of any diseases they might have. Ness might know more about it hopefully. But all you can do is keep trying, when you say retracted do you mean she is not covering the edges of her shell anymore? So you can see the light through it?
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Post by vikingsnail on Apr 23, 2011 17:16:25 GMT
I haven't got the heatmat on at the moment, so her temperature is pretty much the same as before, maybe a degree or so warmer due to the warmer weather at the moment.
Yeah, her body (or I guess the bit around her body, which is atatched to the shell, I don't know the technical term) was right up to the lip of her shell as is normal before. Today it's slightly further back, if I look into her shell I can see a small amount of shell from the inside. Like I said it's only a tiny amount, but it's definately different to how it was before.
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Post by coyote on Apr 24, 2011 2:55:54 GMT
Does she seem to be losing weight?
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