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Post by vallery on Dec 19, 2012 12:46:07 GMT
I had to separate my P. Isabella's from my cepaeas and I have to keep a close eye on the P. Isabella's if they lay any eggs in their new tank as they were eating both their own eggs and the cepaea eggs.
Mine get a sufficient amount of calcium so I looked it up and read that if they have a chance the P. Isabella's will eat the eggs.
Just to let anyone know that if they do have any P.Isabella's to watch out for this.
vallery.
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Post by tsrebel on Dec 19, 2012 19:20:57 GMT
Thanks for the info! Does this apply to all Pleurodonte sp. or just the isabellas? And where did you find the info?
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Post by vallery on Dec 19, 2012 21:24:50 GMT
Hi tsrebel  , I just googled 'Pleurodonte Isabella's eating eggs.' Not sure which site it was. I need to start taking notes. I am not sure if it applies to other species of Pleurodonte, to be honest I didn't even know there were other species of Pleurodonte. Guess I have some studying to do. Even with my cepaeas. Shaydee's new cepaea tips column on the Join cepaea Thread in Pictures taught me a few things as well. vallery |
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Post by tsrebel on Dec 20, 2012 2:17:45 GMT
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Post by vallery on Dec 20, 2012 16:05:34 GMT
Thank You so much tsrebel , I just read the thread you posted. I wish I had known before as I had noticed the baby population in the mixed tank had gone way down since I got the P. Isabella's and put them with the cepaeas. And I just happened to catch one of them eating the p.Isabella eggs about a week or so ago. I wonder if they eat the tiny babies as well? I will have to check it out. I will definitely keep an eye on the new P. Isabella tank and remove any eggs to a smaller container. I have a baby tank also but decided to keep the eggs in the adult tank because I had a terrible loss a few months ago and all the babies in the baby tank died except about 8. At that same time I had a huge loss of my adult cepaeas my adult unbanded England cepaeas were effected the most and some of my Muskoka cepaeas and Toronto cepaeas. The P. Isabella's were in the cepaea tank at the time but were not effected. I don't know what happened. All I can think of is I didn't wash my hands before working on the tanks the one day and may have had something on my hands that killed them. So I have to be extra careful to remember to wash my hands before working on the tanks and handling my snailies. The P.Isabella seem very resilient. I started out with 4 and now have 18. I even ended up with three albinos hatching. And one that has sort of an albino shell with beautiful brown marks or strips on it. Thanks again tsrebel for taking the time to post that thread and helping me out with this. I am now interested in the different species of Pleurodonte as you mentioned so I will study up on that. Vallery |
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Post by morningcoffee on Dec 20, 2012 16:23:45 GMT
Wow, looks like there was a reply from someone very wise, smart and thoroughly amazing in that thread!  Seriously though, I was going to post and say that when I had P.isabella they would regularly eat the eggs in the tank, but they wouldn't always get all of them. It was pretty strange. I have no idea why they do it, as mine also always had a varied diet and plenty of calcium. Vallery, they won't eat the babies, so you don't need to worry about that. It's just eggs they go after, for some reason. |
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Post by vallery on Dec 20, 2012 16:30:39 GMT
Thank You morningcoffee , That is a relief. Once the babies hatch in a different container should I wait for a while and let them grow a bit before placing them in the adult Isabella tank? I do have a few baby Isabella's in the cepaea tank right now. Thank You so much for your reply about this and your help and of course the information on the thread tsrebel posted for me. Vallery |
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Post by tsrebel on Dec 20, 2012 19:47:29 GMT
I have 3 Pleurodonte marginella. This specie is larger than P. isabella, with a pale shell with brown to redish stripes. They seem to thrive (growing well, eating etc.), but have not mated as far as I know and not laid eggs. Two of them have stopped growing and are clearly adult. The third is a little bit smaller, but catching up.
There's a lot of confusion about the pleurodontes and their species' names. I've read about both Pleurodonte excellens and P. rostrata, but I think the latter is really a variety of P. marginella. I really like these species and will try to get some P. excellens when they can be shipped again.
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Post by tsrebel on Dec 20, 2012 19:52:23 GMT
Some pictures of my P. marginella (most recent from September):   |
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Post by morningcoffee on Dec 20, 2012 21:39:41 GMT
Thank You morningcoffee , That is a relief. Once the babies hatch in a different container should I wait for a while and let them grow a bit before placing them in the adult Isabella tank? I do have a few baby Isabella's in the cepaea tank right now. Thank You so much for your reply about this and your help and of course the information on the thread tsrebel posted for me. Vallery You're welcome! I think it's up to you with the babies really - they should be fine to go into the adult tank fairly quickly if you'd like to put them in, but equally they may benefit from having easy access to their own food and calcium in a smaller enclosure for a while - as I'm sure you've seen they are absolutely tiny when they first hatch! I think P. isabella are possibly my favourite snails that I've kept - they are so cute and such active little things |
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Post by vallery on Dec 20, 2012 22:23:47 GMT
tsrebel Thanks for the species info and the pictures. Your marginella's are beautiful. very different from my isabella's in shell color and slightly different in shell shape. I am going to try to take some single pictures of the different shell color and pattern of my isabella's to show you, there are three different types. Not so good at taking photo's so I hope I can get some good shots. morningcoffee Thanks I believe I will keep the wee ones in a separate container for a while before placing them with the adults. I do love my P. isabella's and they certainly are active and love to eat. They eat far more than my cepaeas and I have three times more cepaeas then isabellas. I hope I can get some good pictures of them to post on here to show you and tsrebel . vallery |
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