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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 3:38:23 GMT
Hi , I am hoping that anyone who keeps or knows about Pleurodonte Land Snail Species will share photos and information about all of the different Pleurodonte Species on this Thread. I started out with 4 brown Pleurodonte isabella that I was given and two which were called albino Pleurodonte isabella (I get confused about the albino part) unfortunately I lost one of the P. isabella that was called an albino. I now have 18 P. isabella plus a few tiny babies. Here is a photo of the first four brown I received (unfortunately I didn't take a photo of the two albino) Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 3:39:46 GMT
Another photo of two of the brown P. isabella I received. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 3:42:46 GMT
A photo of one of my first brown P. isabella with two of the first babies from the first 4 brown and the one albino I had been given. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 3:49:12 GMT
A photo of the 18 P. isabella I have now. I hadn't really paid much attention to researching my P. isabella until recently when I found one of them eating P. isabella eggs. So I started a post in the General Discussion about this. I had read that given a chance the p. isabella will eat the eggs. I had been keeping them with my cepaeas and they would eat the cepaea eggs as well so I put them in their own separate tank and keeping a close eye on them so I can remove any eggs lain, right away. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 3:58:22 GMT
A photo of one of the 18 I know have. On the Discussion Thread tsrebel asked if this (egg eating) applied to all Pleurodonte Species. I had no Idea there were different species of Pleurodonte. Tsrebel has 4 Pleurodonte marginella. I have been trying to research Pleurodonte Species but not found very much. Tsrebel led me to a Thread on this forum in Problems and Help: Topic: hatching Pleurodonte isabella eggs. In that Thread morningcoffee left a post saying she found that the older snails have a tendency to always try to eat the eggs that they find and recommended putting the eggs into a separate tub full of moss. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:01:59 GMT
Here are some posts of some of the 18 I now have, to show the different shell colors and patterns on some. most have ended up quite different looking from each other. I am not sure why this is. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:02:33 GMT
3rd pic. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:03:08 GMT
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:03:45 GMT
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:04:22 GMT
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:05:03 GMT
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:06:10 GMT
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:07:41 GMT
9th pic. Notice how different most seem to be. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Dec 29, 2012 4:15:32 GMT
10th pic. The lightest ones with a brown to show the difference. Does anyone have any thoughts about the photos I have shown? I am very curious if these are Pleurodonte isabella, or even if the different species of Pleurodonte can interbreed. Are the light ones albino? Does anyone have other Pleurodonte species photos and information plus Pleurodonte isabella photos and information they could share on this Thread? If so I hope that you will post what you can. Thank You Attachments:
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Post by morningcoffee on Dec 29, 2012 15:38:52 GMT
Lovely snails! Yes, I think they're all P. Isabella. I don't think the ones with lighter shells are albino personally, I think there's just quite a lot of variation in shell colour and tone - a bit like with Cepaea. I might be wrong but that's how it seems to me - when I kept them, there was various different shades and colours of shells in each batch of youngsters. I know that at least one person a couple of years ago was breeding the ones with lighter-coloured shells together as well, to see what shell colours he would get after a few generations and if they would keep getting lighter.
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Post by vallery on Dec 30, 2012 0:36:53 GMT
Thank You morningcoffee , They are a pretty species. I never took to much notice until I had taken those pictures and the different colors are really interesting. They are really easy to care for. I have no idea when it comes down to calling a snail an albino. I believe your right about them just having different shadings like the cepaeas. I tried to find tank set up information for them but found nothing. I read somewhere that they are from Barbados, but I don't know. So I am still trying to find out about them. and other pleurodonte species so I am really hoping other people on the forum will respond. I wonder how your friends breeding experiment went. That would be interesting to know. vallery
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aimee
Achatina achatina
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Post by aimee on Dec 30, 2012 1:18:07 GMT
They are very pretty, I love those thick stripes on the body
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Post by tsrebel on Dec 30, 2012 17:20:10 GMT
Some pictures of my P. marginella (most recent from September): I'll try to get some P. excellens in spring. There is a lot of confusion in this family of snails. The family name used to be Caracolus but changed to Pleurodonte. I find the following species mentioned (kept as pets): P. isabella, P. marginella, P. rostrata, P. sagemon, P. excellens. I suspect that some of these are varieties of one specie, but have no idea how to confirm this.
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bronwen
Archachatina marginata
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Post by bronwen on Dec 30, 2012 19:55:20 GMT
Oooh lovely snails vallery and tsrebel. I do not have this species but they look very beautiful. Vallery, I like the lovely colouring on snail in photo 7. Isn't it intriguing to see what colours and markings you get when they breed. Does it take them long to mature... what I mean is can you tell their markings from an early age?
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Post by vallery on Dec 31, 2012 6:32:25 GMT
Hi aimee , Thank You, now that you have mentioned it they all seem to have consistent stripes on their bodies and color, only the colors of their shell varies. That is interesting. With my cepaea there body colors all vary from dark through to very light. I noticed tsrebel's P. marginella all have lovely light skin. Hi tsrebel , Thank You for sharing your photos of your P.marginella. They are so beautiful. They seem to have a sharp edge between the top and bottom of their shells and I love the shell colors. I hope you will post some more about them and that we find out more about the pleurodonte species from others photos and info. Thank You bronwen , When they first hatch they are so tiny and look the same to me. But I looked back after your post and noticed in the third picture I posted of the adult and two babies that had grown a bit since hatching, one was a little darker than the other. If I get a single clutch to hatch I will photograph there progression so we can see what the coloration is like. I am glad people are pointing things out that I have never really paid attention to with these snails. vallery
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Post by vallery on Jan 2, 2013 21:36:05 GMT
Two newborn Pleurodonte isabella babies hatched in the P. isabella tank . I missed these eggs and so did the adult P.isabella thankfully. They look quite similar when first hatched. Very tiny. I will try to record their progress as they grow to see if they end up with different shell colors and markings. vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jan 4, 2013 6:06:27 GMT
Four more Pleurodonte isabella babies found vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jan 4, 2013 6:09:36 GMT
Pleurodonte isabella eating carrot slice stuck to side of tank One of Shaydee's Tips vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jan 4, 2013 6:11:52 GMT
Pleurodonte isabella eating on cucumber stick One of Shaydee's Cepaea Tips, works great for Pleurodonte as well vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jan 4, 2013 6:12:55 GMT
pleurodonte isabella mating vallery Attachments:
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