really dark amber snail?

[leo]

i hope this is the right spot to put this... ^_^;
but i found a really dark amber snail today and i was wonderin if this was just a subspecies or still growing, or what?

i saw it and was like "is that a kanab amber snail!??!!?!" LOL! because i've been seein a specific user talkin about theirs recently!
but i don't think that's even possible bc i live in michigan and i found it outside by the chicken coop.

but i dont think i've seen any amber snails this dark before? all my current ones are light. anyone have any ideas?

here's a pic of the bab! (named 'oaky' because of a typo by my friend LOL)


i can take more pics if needed! tomorrow probably if so, so i can have some natural light!

[astana]

The Kanab amber snail has very light skin with black/brown specks, like so:

But that definitely does not look like a normal amber snail :E. Not sure what it is, though...

[Liguus]

Its a bit tricky to identify amber snails, as they mostly all look alike, but I have noticed that some members are very light yellow in color and others are very dark.

I do not think either of these are Kanab amber snails, but I'm not too good at picking out the differences between the species in succinea and oxyloma.

Perhaps another user (like wolf or brunni) could help with an ID.

[wolf]

Hi,
oh, I'm so sorry, but I'm not familiar with the American species of amber snails (Succineidae). At least in Europe it's a rather tricky family. In most cases a sure identification is only possible by doing an anatomical section (genital morphology). Moreover - like in many other cases - the variability of species is astonishing. I hope brunni or other users will know more about American amber snails.
Sorry, kind regards: wolf

[Liguus]

Since it was found in michigan maybe there is a way to at least narrow down the possibilities to 4 or 5 species, but I'm not familiar with a source that lists the species found in that state.

[astana]

Amber snails are hard to identify... Ebony's the only one I've kept, so I'm afraid to say I'm of no use.

[leo]

thanks for all the replies and help!!
i figured it wasn't really a kanab, but it looks fairly similar to some pics i've seen of them LOL! :-3c

i didn't realize there were so many types of amber snails in michigan :-00 it's a shame most of the wiki articles have no information or picture. though they really do seem hard to identify!

it's SOOO small though. i just put it in my tank with all my other ambers today and i'm shocked at the size difference.
i hope it does okay- there's lots of room for them! ;O;;