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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2005 19:05:35 GMT
wow ur craveni have grown loads!!! mines still tiny those are actually helix pomatia the 'purpurea' looks a lot like a degneri to me
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Arno
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Post by Arno on Nov 14, 2005 19:06:59 GMT
Your Helix aspersa look more like Helix pomatia to me......
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 14, 2005 19:10:44 GMT
So I have Helix pomatia...do you know if Helix pomatia are found in Arizona though? cause' thats where those snails were collected
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Post by Paul on Nov 14, 2005 19:12:50 GMT
The "purpurea" looks like my "ventricosa", particularly the first pic, and they have a purple/pink columella. Yours seem slightly brighter, but that could be the picture. Mike, do degneri have red or pink/purple columellas or both? I don't have the book to hand but you actually have some don't you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2005 19:16:26 GMT
kev, i think pomatia do live around that area in USA somewhere...go to canadian landsnail society, and go to database (i think) there shud be some info there
paul, degneri columella ranges from red to violet.
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 14, 2005 19:22:56 GMT
kev, i think pomatia do live around that area in USA somewhere...go to canadian landsnail society, and go to database (i think) there shud be some info there Found the info... Jackson Michigan-Old Railroad Right of Way on the South side of Jackson near Ella Sharp Park- Helix Pomatia- One of only two known locations of Helix Pomatia in North America. Existed there since the 1930's. Found along the railraod right of way near an old creekbed. The area was full of sweetpea vines and wild concord grape vines. Is Michigan near Arizona? it doesnt say the other location in North America where they're found.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Nov 14, 2005 20:05:09 GMT
well they are Pomatia where ever they where collected :-)
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 14, 2005 20:30:54 GMT
Three from the top and one from the bottom please Carol. *lol* Ignore my crap Countdown reference there... Lovely snails (as always)
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 15, 2005 22:54:14 GMT
So what could my purpurea and ventricosa be then?
Paul, you mentioned rhodostoma, do you have any pictures of that species? I cant find any online.
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Post by Paul on Nov 16, 2005 0:44:08 GMT
Personally I think they are probably degneri or some sort of margie.
I will try and get a picture of rhodostoma but that species is unlikely as they are quite slender.
My larger ventricosa is about 3/4 of full size so I'm hoping soon a coloured lip should start developing. I'm also gonna compare with some margies. The trouble is my 3 margies are all adults with worn shells and the eggs haven't hatched yet.
They could be a crossbreed but if that is the case, we haven't really got a hope of finding out.
I wish there was a definite "if it has this it's a.." with snails but that just isn't the case, it's all generalisms. I'm not saying they definitely aren't ventricosa or purpurea but it seems very unlikely to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2005 9:42:32 GMT
i think lucy's ventries could be margieXventricosa. that seems the best possibility doesnt it? it seems like they have characteristics of both species
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