Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Sept 16, 2006 12:18:36 GMT
Does anyone actually keep any confirmed Archachatina marginata var. marginata? which has a blue or white columella? and is trying to breed them in captivity? im just wondering if they're actually in captivity at the moment.
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gabi
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Post by gabi on Sept 16, 2006 12:28:30 GMT
Timm in Germany had one (no clue if he has sold it on already, as he was giving up lots of his animals). I have seen in spring some on the reptile-fair, but haven´t taken them, as one had cost 25 Euro and they have been so far back retracted, that you couldn´t even see their bodies anymore. Haven´t wanted to spend so much money on snailes that have a very low surviving chance or which are already dead. And as they have had huge shells (surely near 20cm shelllenght) they possibly have been very old too. I possibly go in too weeks again on this reptile-fair. The company usually has snailies there. I will look for them, if you are interested (but only take them, if they are in half-ways good conditions).
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 16, 2006 17:07:47 GMT
I thought my Colin was one? never had him ID'd though. This is him.
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 16, 2006 17:09:17 GMT
If he is one, he has had 13 bubbies
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Post by sezzy5889 on Sept 16, 2006 17:50:53 GMT
you need to push the mantle back further moracai
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 16, 2006 18:50:19 GMT
OK, will give it another go
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 16, 2006 19:28:47 GMT
This is as far back as I can get it to go and I can only see white, no apricot.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Sept 16, 2006 19:55:33 GMT
hmmm, its veyr hard unless your snail retracts (i'm not going to make you do, hehe) My Brixton ovum was the same and i believed for a long time he was var. marginata as whenever i pushed the mantle as far back as i could it was blue/white, until he bacame 'ill' at one stage and i noticed the tiniest tint of orange.
what is his body like? var.marginata are like suturalis in that they are much smaller than ovum, but are wide and chunky like ovum.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Sept 16, 2006 19:56:48 GMT
Kevin, Christabel has var. marginata maybe you could ask her for some shots of them, she hasn't been able to breed them yet, apparently they are very difficult to breed and raise. If you don't have her email PM me
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LisaLQ
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Post by LisaLQ on Sept 17, 2006 12:01:47 GMT
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Post by sezzy5889 on Sept 17, 2006 13:22:06 GMT
well i only got my information from someone who actually has some, i wouldn't know myslef
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 17, 2006 18:24:55 GMT
It also say that the parietal wall is white or bluish white? Is this also a reliable indicator?
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LisaLQ
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Post by LisaLQ on Sept 17, 2006 18:27:17 GMT
I thought you used to have one Sarah?
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Post by sezzy5889 on Sept 17, 2006 19:34:36 GMT
Hes still my fav snaily though ;D
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LisaLQ
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Post by LisaLQ on Sept 17, 2006 19:39:12 GMT
Doh @ me...
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 30, 2006 12:21:52 GMT
kevin, you never gave an opinion on my pics. Do you think he could be var. marginata? Or can't tell from those pics?
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Sept 30, 2006 12:36:00 GMT
kevin, you never gave an opinion on my pics. Do you think he could be var. marginata? Or can't tell from those pics? From those pics I cant tell for sure, the outer part of the columella in ovum is white, or bluish white.
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 30, 2006 12:38:50 GMT
I can try and get some better ones later, if he will co-operate with me. what about the inside of the shell, does that help?
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Sept 30, 2006 12:49:35 GMT
I can try and get some better ones later, if he will co-operate with me. what about the inside of the shell, does that help? judging by the pictures on the petsnails mainsite the inside of the shell of ovum and var. marginata are the same, just that var. ovum has a apricot columella and marginata does not.
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 30, 2006 12:54:11 GMT
I have pushed the mantle as far as I dare but cannot see any trace of apricot. My others have obvious apricot without pushing back the mantle, the white area is very thin.
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Sept 30, 2006 13:07:26 GMT
I have pushed the mantle as far as I dare but cannot see any trace of apricot. My others have obvious apricot without pushing back the mantle, the white area is very thin. Its probably var. marginata then, do you have more than one without an apricot columella? or would the babies from him be marginata x ovum?
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 30, 2006 14:12:57 GMT
he's the only one, the other 3 are definatly ovum. I will check the babies and see if I can tell columella colour yet. Should be able to see it now I would think.
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Moracai
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Post by Moracai on Sept 30, 2006 14:39:11 GMT
11 of the babies look ovum, the remaining 2 I can't really tell, might have to wait for them to be a bit bigger. I suppose if he is var. marginata then the babies would be var. marginata x ovum. If I can determine he is definately var. marginata, then the only was to get true var. marginata babies will be to find another true, and keep them together with no ovums in the tank.
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