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Post by rosanna123 on Jun 29, 2010 14:13:29 GMT
please help me what type of margie is this Attachments:
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Post by rosanna123 on Jun 29, 2010 14:14:14 GMT
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Post by rosanna123 on Jun 29, 2010 14:15:13 GMT
behind, soory i could not get any of underneath Attachments:
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Post by rosanna123 on Jun 29, 2010 14:16:11 GMT
and this is another margie that i recived Attachments:
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Post by apple on Jun 29, 2010 14:24:06 GMT
A picture of the columella would be interesting, but they seem to be margie ovum so far.
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Post by rosanna123 on Jun 29, 2010 21:40:32 GMT
i have just compared the ovums i already have to these new ones and they dont look anything like each other. i have know idea what they are. i know they are margies as they have the v on the tail. the person who gave them to me had them listed on ebay as zebra snails (the first 3 pictures are of these) and tiger snails (the last picture).
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Post by apple on Jun 29, 2010 22:14:21 GMT
I have margie ovums very much alike those snails... Can you say the color of the columella??
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Post by rosanna123 on Jun 30, 2010 12:14:08 GMT
just looked at them the ones in the first 3 pics have red columellas ant the ones in the last pic seem to have peachy columellas
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Post by apple on Jun 30, 2010 12:54:08 GMT
Peachy columellas sound like margie ovum. Red ones, I´m not that sure. Maybe a picture could help.
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Post by lee2211 on Jul 14, 2010 18:43:55 GMT
Aren't red colemullas suturalis?
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Post by Paul on Jul 14, 2010 23:25:13 GMT
Red/pink columellas can be... suturalis, grevillei, egregiella or egregia However, suturalis are much more common in captivity; I don't think grevillei are found in captivity yet. You'd have to use other characteristics like shell markings to distinguish between suturalis, egregia and egregiella. See here: www.petsnails.co.uk/species/archachatina_marginata.html#startJudging from the picture, if they have pink/red columellas I would say they are suturalis.
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Post by lee2211 on Jul 16, 2010 19:33:12 GMT
Oh, well I was close ;P
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Post by rosanna123 on Jul 17, 2010 10:10:51 GMT
are you sure cos i have suts and i have ovums and they both have rounded shells, where as these dont, the person i got them off of had them sold to her as zebras and tigers but as you can see they are not zebras, is there any chance they could be tigers, they are in a sepeate tank untill i find out for sure what they cos as i only keep species tanks and do not mix species other than i have a jade and a rodatzi in 1 tank but that is to get jadatzi babies
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Post by lee2211 on Jul 17, 2010 11:31:00 GMT
No, we cannot be positively sure. But it's a likely possibility, they don't look like Tigers to me, but hey, you might work it out as they grow.
But just because they don't look like others you have, doesn't mean they are. The rounded shell could mean they're something else, but it could also be a slight genetic difference, or a result of crossbreeding two different variations.
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Post by rosanna123 on Jul 17, 2010 11:56:38 GMT
thats what i was saying all the ovums and suts that i have and known have rounded shells where as these unknown snails have more elongated , pointed shells, the last pic looks like my young tigers, that is why i asked if they could be,
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Post by lee2211 on Jul 17, 2010 14:03:04 GMT
They might very well be then.
Oooh, I love mystery snails! It's always interesting seeing what they turn out to be.
In that case, I'd keep them warm and damp, as they deffinately seem to be either A. achatina or A. marginata.
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Post by Paul on Jul 17, 2010 14:03:13 GMT
Suturalis are supposed to have a more slender shell than ovums or the nominate species.
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Post by rosanna123 on Jul 17, 2010 14:32:12 GMT
yeah but my suts have rounded shells and as i said these dont, i really want to know what species they are so ican move them to the right tanks, s there any other way i could find out
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Post by rosanna123 on Jul 18, 2010 9:50:49 GMT
i have decided these are tigers, they are now in with my other tigers and seem really happy
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Post by Paul on Jul 19, 2010 0:19:39 GMT
When you said rounded shell I thought you meant the larger whorls rather than the apex. It's hard to tell from the photos but if you mean the snails have a pointed shell at the apex, then they are Achatina and not Archachatina.
And I can tell from the picture the snail has the raised V so unless any new knowledge has come to light that I don't know about that means they are Achatina achatina.
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Post by rosanna123 on Jul 19, 2010 7:09:36 GMT
i have compared them to my younger tigers aswell as my adult tigers, everything suggests they are the same
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