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Post by Johnnywho on Jul 11, 2011 20:04:26 GMT
Hi im in the U.k,
And I was wondering where I could find some Helix Pomatia in the wild and where abouts they may be?
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Post by Robert Nordsieck on Jul 12, 2011 7:14:31 GMT
Hi there, that is quite difficult. As far as I can see, Helix pomatia in Britain only appear in what I think is the Thames valley. They need much calcium carbonate, so they are most probably found on limestone ground with lots of vegetation. As to the picture: Distribution map of Cornu aspersum (orange), Helix pomatia (yellow) and Helix lutescens in Central and Northern Europe, according to Kerney et al. 1983. Light orange is where both Cornu aspersum and Helix pomatia are found. Kind regards Robert Attachments:
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Post by heydihoo on Jul 12, 2011 9:35:56 GMT
I found some in a village in the north east of england
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Post by Robert Nordsieck on Jul 12, 2011 9:53:15 GMT
Hi, then I assume that Helix pomatia is spreading towards the North of England. Looks like the distribution maps must be revised  Kind regards Robert |
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Post by Johnnywho on Jul 12, 2011 9:56:57 GMT
Looks like theres little chance I will find them then Haha |
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Post by Robert Nordsieck on Jul 12, 2011 14:39:46 GMT
I am not so sure about that. The area where H. pomatia is present on the British islands is not so far away from you. Possibly you know somebody who has a garden there...
What I do not know is if you are supposed to collect H. pomatia in Britain, because it is quite rare. This is what animalbase.de says: "Threatened by continuous habitat destructions and drainage, usually less threatened by commercial collections. There were many unsuccessful attempts to establish the species in various parts of England, Scotland and Ireland, it only survived in natural habitats in S England, and is threatened by intensive farming and habitat destruction.".
Kind regards
Robert
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strangemouse
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Post by strangemouse on Jul 12, 2011 16:17:07 GMT
The NBN has records for many organisms, including Helix pomatia. But I must point out that they are protected by the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, making it illegal to kill, injure, collect or sell them in the UK without a licence. There have been some captive bred ones offered from time to time. Victoria |
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Post by Robert Nordsieck on Jul 12, 2011 17:08:36 GMT
Thank you, that is exactly, what I wanted to know, it's the same here in Germany and in Austria, basically collecting Helix pomatia is illegal.
Kind regards
Robert
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Post by Johnnywho on Jul 12, 2011 18:20:55 GMT
Yeah, I have seen some sellers but the amount they charge is unreal!
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strangemouse
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Post by strangemouse on Jul 12, 2011 22:50:23 GMT
Really? How much if you don't mind me asking?
I have seen them at comparable prices to GALS although haven't been looking lately.
I got mine in a swap, have seen some tiny babies in there this year but not sure how they are getting on, and they grow so slowly it will be a while before I have some available I suspect. They certainly mate a lot after a rainy spell!
Victoria
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Post by Johnnywho on Jul 13, 2011 15:22:12 GMT
I can't remember exactly but the person I saw selling them was called phasmid72
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