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Post by lostsouls65 on Nov 11, 2011 21:10:19 GMT
Hello everyone, my GALS have made me a proud daddy, have loads to sell in various sizes, they are baby GALS. 10 baby GALS for £7 will post them to you.
For more details please contact me. I had a bad experience, someone came round to buy some only to confess she wanted them for cooking so I showed her the door. NOT MY BABIES.
I wanted to sell them for someone who cares and will look after them as Pets
Please contact me if interested
Thank you
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Post by kenjude on Dec 12, 2011 18:35:39 GMT
Hello,
Would you ship to the US? Thank you.
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Post by axoloa on Dec 12, 2011 18:57:27 GMT
Hello, Would you ship to the US? Thank you. Risky buisness shipping GAL's to the US. you could find yourself in allot of deap (prison sentencable) trouble if caught out. Are you sure you want to take that risk?
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Post by heydihoo on Dec 13, 2011 11:12:56 GMT
It is highly illegal to post to the usa, and IF the snails arrive alive which would be very doubtful they would be destroyed by customs when they discover what they are
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foghog
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Post by foghog on Dec 13, 2011 16:00:39 GMT
not even close.... it isn't a prisonable offense, it is a fineable offense, and it is far more probably they would arrive just fine, then not. it is not very doubtful at all. however, 'if' they are found by customs, yes they will more then likely be destroyed...but customs has billions of packages a day, especially during christmas time, and I know of plenty of things that have been shipped just fine without any hassle or problems. if they are babies, instead of using a box to pack them in, one could easily use a small ceramic figure for instance. though they do x-ray some things, they do not x-ray everything or come even close to it. like I've stated before, I "Have heard of" people who have even taken hard drives, opened them up and shipped them with cocaine packed inside them by mail. (I am not a druggie personally and am actually against it...so no, in this case it wasn't me. In any case, send it using a different name, or inside something else, and you may help someone who is really really into having them who is just being held back by a oppressive anti snail government, and special interest people who care nothing about snails at all really, have their dreams come true, merely by sending them a few small snails. Some of which are already in the US anyways. Plus it will help spread them as a interest with better understanding and further the knowledge and tolerance of them for the future.
Next thing you know, the country will make laws saying it is illegal to smoke or transport Marijuana, and everyone will have to stop doing that too.....
*typical disclaimer* This post is not a suggestion or promotion to do anything illegal or against the laws of the area you live in or by. Check with any and all laws in your area for the required permits and abilities to do anything before doing so. The above methods are just for informational purposes only and not to be used to avoid those laws or not follow it. all risk , legality and knowledge is the sole responsibility of the individual. The views presented here are the sole views of me and not this forum or anyone else associated.
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Post by axoloa on Dec 13, 2011 18:11:56 GMT
(prison sentencable) meaning that if he is caught out then he would receive a bann on keeping mollusca of any species, and if tries to do so and is caught out a second time or caught keeping snails/slugs when a random inspection comes up (wich the authorities will do up to 3 times over a period of 2 years to those who received the ban), jail will be the sentence Learned allot about this during my Public Services college course. anyway this is why I said prison sentencable trouble rather than saying that it was a prison sentencable offence
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foghog
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Post by foghog on Dec 13, 2011 18:53:44 GMT
yes but the jail time isn't anything about the snails. it is for not following a court judgement. THAT is jailable. (in otherwords if you are walking the wrong way down the street and get picked up for j-walking, and you do not pay the fine, then a warrent for your arrest will happen. you will then be ordered to pay the fine by the court directly...if you refuse you will go to jail....but it isn;t for j-walking...it is for refusing a order of the court.) and that is only if the court rules you cannot keep mullusks as part of its judgement. which I'll give you, if they think you are intentionally smuggling will often happen. still no risk on the person in the other country sending them really at all. (least as far as I know....like I said I'd always send them under a different name just in case anyways.)and I am one to believe a person is allowed to accept risks for themselves, if they so wish to. We are a free country, and that is part of being free. in other countries it isn't done the same. but here in the US, it is. just like in the US as long as someone isn't soliciting someone else do a crime, we can talk about the aspects of doing it all day, or the various ways some use to get away with it, for educational purposes. and they are letting hardened criminals out of jails all the time here, they could care less about someone poaching animals, unless it is done regularly and seriously non the less receiving snails in the mail once or twice to keep as pets. if someone was dealing, yes...or if they were a hoarder and had a bunch or irresponsible certainly...and yes they would probably still fine anyone even doing ti once, but they wouldn't jail them. www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2011/05/201152323165682546.html
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coyote
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Post by coyote on Dec 14, 2011 3:25:15 GMT
With the increased sense of security in the US, for better or for worse, scrutiny of anything and everything entering the country is heightened. Customs packages are being X-rayed, for one. I would not want to see a snail subject to X-rays strong enough for inanimate objects. I also doubt a snail would survive being shipped such a long distance.
People who can legally possess GALS species in the US have the appropriate credentials to do so legally and know the legal channels to go through for educational or research purposes.
This message board is not a place for promoting or planning activities that are illegal. Regardless of how any of us feel about these laws, they are the laws in effect, and I would not want to see our gathering place jeopardized in any way (nor do I want to see the possibility of a snail being traumatized by a long, stressful shipment). So I'm asking that such discussions not take place here, and I thank you all for your understanding and cooperation.
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Post by axoloa on Dec 14, 2011 5:04:01 GMT
yes but the jail time isn't anything about the snails. it is for not following a court judgement. THAT is jailable. (in otherwords if you are walking the wrong way down the street and get picked up for j-walking, and you do not pay the fine, then a warrent for your arrest will happen. you will then be ordered to pay the fine by the court directly...if you refuse you will go to jail....but it isn;t for j-walking...it is for refusing a order of the court.) and that is only if the court rules you cannot keep mullusks as part of its judgement. which I'll give you, if they think you are intentionally smuggling will often happen. still no risk on the person in the other country sending them really at all. (least as far as I know....like I said I'd always send them under a different name just in case anyways.)and I am one to believe a person is allowed to accept risks for themselves, if they so wish to. We are a free country, and that is part of being free. in other countries it isn't done the same. but here in the US, it is. just like in the US as long as someone isn't soliciting someone else do a crime, we can talk about the aspects of doing it all day, or the various ways some use to get away with it, for educational purposes. and they are letting hardened criminals out of jails all the time here, they could care less about someone poaching animals, unless it is done regularly and seriously non the less receiving snails in the mail once or twice to keep as pets. if someone was dealing, yes...or if they were a hoarder and had a bunch or irresponsible certainly...and yes they would probably still fine anyone even doing ti once, but they wouldn't jail them. www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2011/05/201152323165682546.html Thats true, I do understand what you are saying
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Post by kenjude on Dec 14, 2011 23:01:22 GMT
Hello, Would you ship to the US? Thank you. I would like to apologize to the forum for my very bad idea. I don't know what I was thinking when I posted it. kenjude
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Post by foghog on Dec 15, 2011 3:12:50 GMT
my guess was you were thinking about having them sent to you......but thats just a guess on my part. haha. best of luck to you, in any case.
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coyote
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Post by coyote on Dec 16, 2011 0:10:00 GMT
No worries, kenjude.
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