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Post by astana on Aug 24, 2015 2:21:26 GMT
Thank you for the informative video!
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Post by astana on Aug 24, 2015 15:26:28 GMT
Do you have to have the sooty mold covered bark before you smear it with smoothie? Or could it just be regular bark?
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Post by sonyasun on Sept 7, 2015 22:13:42 GMT
I want to thank you for putting that recipe for the tree snail food. I tried it tonight and they seem to be eating it. Can't say thanks enough!!! I was getting afraid that I wasn't going to be able to feed them. I thought they would eat pond algae if I took it out and put on a sticks or branches but found out that they wouldn't eat it. but they seem to be enjoying your recipe. Thanks again!!
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Post by horrr0r on Sept 8, 2015 15:47:14 GMT
Do you know about Oahu / Hawaiian Tree Snails? They are extremely endangered, I have not ever seen even one before! They used to be so abundant in the ancient Hawaiian times that you could make a lei out of the shells! Not only that but there were so many species, many small towns have species named for them because they were only/mostly found in that town. When the colonists came, the population decline started. Then when the invasive A. fulica population began the Tree Snails population dropped more, being crowded out. And then when someone decided to sneak Rosy Wolf Snails in to get rid of the GALS, the opposite effect happened. They instead predated on the native tree snails. Just 50 years ago they were still apparently pretty abundant. Now, most of the species are killed out of existance, and the rest are only existing in small numbers in a small reservation. They're very colorful and beautiful, and apparently some of the species "sang", as in made melodic noises in the way that whales or birds do. I wish I could find some!
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Post by sonyasun on Sept 8, 2015 18:06:44 GMT
I actually have the drymaeus and they are the ones I saw eating or at least they appeared to be eating. I placed them on the mix as you suggested and they looked to start right away. Some of my other snails seem to enjoy the mix as well.
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Post by Liguus on Sept 8, 2015 20:00:51 GMT
I actually have the drymaeus and they are the ones I saw eating or at least they appeared to be eating. I placed them on the mix as you suggested and they looked to start right away. Some of my other snails seem to enjoy the mix as well. Yes, mine too, which is what made it strange. Perhaps mine were ill to begin with (I only collected off of one tree by a public beach). Maybe some pesticides were sprayed in the area...Im not sure... but a similar thing happened with my first zachrysia that died in one week. The second group is still alive a year later though. |
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Post by astana on Sept 9, 2015 0:57:12 GMT
Are zachrysia allowed to pass state lines? If they were I could've collected them.
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Post by gigas on Sept 10, 2015 2:24:43 GMT
I was told they do not issue, under any circumstance, permits to ship Zachrysia interstate, well in my state, at least. They are a "quarantine hazard" because they eat ornamental plants. Go figure. I read the main concern is for Helix and Achatina.
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Post by feelahthetigress on Jul 26, 2017 22:18:47 GMT
I know this thread is old, but I thought I'd add in a tidbit of info: I have Bulimulus guadalupensis snails that I keep in a live planted vivarium, and they eat Bolivian wandering Jew with great gusto (I got the plant from www.neherpetoculture.com/). The plant grows so vigorously though, that they can't make a dent on it, making it a great feeder plant. I've also fed them lettuce and a few other veggies, and they ate that too. They also appreciated a bit of dried mealworm for protein. I don't know about those other tree snails, but these are pretty easy to keep. |
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Post by Liguus on Jul 27, 2017 0:16:43 GMT
Yes, B. Guadalupensis (as well as B. Sporadicus and Rabdotus) are pretty similar to any standard garden snail in terms of dietary habits. They just like it warmer and more humid like their Caribbean homelands. The Orthalicus are a different story unfortunately.
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Post by cepaeahelix on Aug 9, 2017 13:00:13 GMT
How come these species are picky eaters?
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Post by Liguus on Aug 9, 2017 14:20:52 GMT
How come these species are picky eaters? Because they evolved to survive by living in trees and could only eat what material was available there. |
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Post by anders on Sept 21, 2019 8:13:41 GMT
I went ahead and made a video about the smoothie formula I use to feed my snails. I figured it may be useful to anyone who may try to keep Florida snail species in the future. The recipe is: (withheld) I a just became part of this group but found this old thread. I would love to know the recipe and see the video as it is seems to not be on the post anymore. Thank you very much |
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Post by Liguus on Sept 22, 2019 22:58:27 GMT
I went ahead and made a video about the smoothie formula I use to feed my snails. I figured it may be useful to anyone who may try to keep Florida snail species in the future. The recipe is: (withheld) I a just became part of this group but found this old thread. I would love to know the recipe and see the video as it is seems to not be on the post anymore. Thank you very much It's impossible |
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Post by snerdahmik on Mar 27, 2020 4:26:29 GMT
@liguus , Sorry for waking up an old thread. I’m looking through old ones tonight to find useful information for an archive.
Why did you remove the recipe? Did it turn out to not be sufficient nutritionally, or did you want to prevent people from taking in tree snails? Just curious. Hope I’m not pestering you.
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Post by Liguus on Mar 27, 2020 12:58:56 GMT
@liguus , Sorry for waking up an old thread. I’m looking through old ones tonight to find useful information for an archive. Why did you remove the recipe? Did it turn out to not be sufficient nutritionally, or did you want to prevent people from taking in tree snails? Just curious. Hope I’m not pestering you. Both. The recipe was not nutritionally sufficient like you mention, for long term survival and therefore there was no chance of captive breeding. I removed it because it wasn't an effective diet and therefore would result in tons of needless additional deaths, and also be misleading people into thinking they can become tree snail keepers. I would delete this whole thread if I could. The second reason also is to prevent people from taking them from the wild. Like I said I could never figure out a perfect formula so the results would be people killing them in a few months. At least this way they may be less tempted to do so if there is no formula. People are aggressively stupid IMO though, so european keepers collected them last year anyways and tried to keep them on a diet of cucumber and sweet potato. Nobody is posting anymore pictures one year later and I know for a fact all those hundreds being sold over in Europe died. I tried telling them to stop trying to keep these but they just laughed me off and said something about freedom so like most people they had to learn the hard way when their personal theories fail and reality proves that they are not as great of snail keepers as they thought. I wish I could do more to prevent situations like that. |
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Post by snerdahmik on Mar 27, 2020 19:10:36 GMT
@liguus , Sorry for waking up an old thread. I’m looking through old ones tonight to find useful information for an archive. Why did you remove the recipe? Did it turn out to not be sufficient nutritionally, or did you want to prevent people from taking in tree snails? Just curious. Hope I’m not pestering you. Both. The recipe was not nutritionally sufficient like you mention, for long term survival and therefore there was no chance of captive breeding. I removed it because it wasn't an effective diet and therefore would result in tons of needless additional deaths, and also be misleading people into thinking they can become tree snail keepers. I would delete this whole thread if I could. The second reason also is to prevent people from taking them from the wild. Like I said I could never figure out a perfect formula so the results would be people killing them in a few months. At least this way they may be less tempted to do so if there is no formula. People are aggressively stupid IMO though, so european keepers collected them last year anyways and tried to keep them on a diet of cucumber and sweet potato. Nobody is posting anymore pictures one year later and I know for a fact all those hundreds being sold over in Europe died. I tried telling them to stop trying to keep these but they just laughed me off and said something about freedom so like most people they had to learn the hard way when their personal theories fail and reality proves that they are not as great of snail keepers as they thought. I wish I could do more to prevent situations like that. I think you did all that you could! There’s no way to completely prevent it, people will always be inherently selfish by nature; If someone thinks there’s a way to capitalize off of tree snails, they’ll seize it. The best thing you could have done was remove the information and dissuade the people who wanted to try it. I really respect that, thank you for removing it. I think by keeping it up, if someone comes across this old thread in a few years they’ll likely see how strongly it’s emphasized that you can’t keep a tree snail in captivity and likely release it! “Business Owners” not so much.. but it certainly helps a great deal!! It’s really unfortunate to hear that so many snails died in Europe for a greedy cause.. but now they’re not being sold anymore. Poor little guys. |
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Post by snerdahmik on Mar 27, 2020 19:17:58 GMT
I know of a website that sells multiple snail species, ships them into the US and Canada.. All of which are illegal. I’m half tempted to buy one just to see what conditions it’s in when I receive it (I imagine an emaciated little snail rattling around in a cardboard box until it’s dropped off at someone’s house..) but I don’t want to support their business at all.
It’s called Myhappysnails.. Do you think we could report them to some kind of government organization? I don’t know where the “company” building actually is, but maybe the FBI could find out.. Do you think I should report them?
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Post by Liguus on Mar 27, 2020 20:32:53 GMT
I know of a website that sells multiple snail species, ships them into the US and Canada.. All of which are illegal. I’m half tempted to buy one just to see what conditions it’s in when I receive it (I imagine an emaciated little snail rattling around in a cardboard box until it’s dropped off at someone’s house..) but I don’t want to support their business at all. It’s called Myhappysnails.. Do you think we could report them to some kind of government organization? I don’t know where the “company” building actually is, but maybe the FBI could find out.. Do you think I should report them? Myhappysnails is promoting illegal activity, but the USDA will go after the buyers and not the seller, since he is in Ukraine under different laws and there is not that much a USA agency could do about him. I'm sure they already know about the transactions seeing as to how many people I've seen get orders from him on Facebook. I don't like him because he sells wild pomatia, and they don't breed super easily in captivity nor fast in the wild either like other snails. I believe there are restriction on collection them in the UK for these reasons... so he could easily remove a wild population from his area. He also promotes his snail food which is like 99% wheat flour. Just some dude trying to make easy cash. |
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Post by snerdahmik on Mar 27, 2020 21:23:16 GMT
I know of a website that sells multiple snail species, ships them into the US and Canada.. All of which are illegal. I’m half tempted to buy one just to see what conditions it’s in when I receive it (I imagine an emaciated little snail rattling around in a cardboard box until it’s dropped off at someone’s house..) but I don’t want to support their business at all. It’s called Myhappysnails.. Do you think we could report them to some kind of government organization? I don’t know where the “company” building actually is, but maybe the FBI could find out.. Do you think I should report them? Myhappysnails is promoting illegal activity, but the USDA will go after the buyers and not the seller, since he is in Ukraine under different laws and there is not that much a USA agency could do about him. I'm sure they already know about the transactions seeing as to how many people I've seen get orders from him on Facebook. I don't like him because he sells wild pomatia, and they don't breed super easily in captivity nor fast in the wild either like other snails. I believe there are restriction on collection them in the UK for these reasons... so he could easily remove a wild population from his area. He also promotes his snail food which is like 99% wheat flour. Just some dude trying to make easy cash. That’s so aggravating. I hate him so much. |
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