gabi
Achatina tincta
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Post by gabi on Sept 6, 2006 13:03:26 GMT
Hi! We are just discussing in a German forum, why some fulica´s (especially wildcaughts and their upgrown babies) are changing from black (last whorl) to almost green or yellowish-green within a short time, after they have gotten sexually-marture. We have no really useful explaination for that. We only figuered out, that it probably could be UV-lightning. But what causes really this change in colours? Any ideas? Anybody who knows that? edit: here is the link to Geli´s forum, where Pic´s are too showing, what I am talking from: www.schnecken-forum.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2030&highlight=Kind regards, Gabi
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Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2006 13:44:57 GMT
maybe the substrate is eroding the shell pigment?
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Post by section8angel on Sept 6, 2006 17:46:10 GMT
I have 2 whos shells are going a greeny colour too. But they're not mature yet, they're not from wc parents and it's not just the last whorl it's the whole shell lol.
They're not the only ones in the tank either so if it was the substrate shouldn't the others be like it too?
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gabi
Achatina tincta
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Post by gabi on Sept 6, 2006 17:50:08 GMT
For me it is too a definitiv thing, that not the substrate causes this change in colour.
Geli says, that she doesn´t use any lamps (nor uv-lamps) and no direct sunlight in her tanks and the snails have turned extremely greenish. There are too other snails (no fulica´s) in with them and they don´t changed their colours. So food too can´t be it.
Interest´s me now even more, who this colour-changing is done (what changes at all in the shell?).
kind regards,
Gabi
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Post by felix93 on Sept 6, 2006 18:04:41 GMT
I have a couple of fulicas that have greenish colour shells too, but I doubt it's because of the substrate to make their shells change in different colour because my others that live in the same tank have brown / dark colour.
I have no lights for that tank. And these 2 parents are not WC ones. When they were babies, the colour of their shells just look the same as my other non-greenish colour shells fulicas.
What causes the changing colour, I cannot answer that though.
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KathyM
Achatina tincta
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Post by KathyM on Sept 8, 2006 8:08:45 GMT
Some of mine look greenish when their conditions are too wet or when they have a bath.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Sept 8, 2006 9:03:57 GMT
i had some of my fulica shells turn from almost black to green after fitting lamps above the tanks, and i think it was beth who had her snails shells turn a different colour after moving them into a big tank with fitted light
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LisaLQ
Archachatina papyracea
Old friend (emphasis on the "old")
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Post by LisaLQ on Sept 8, 2006 18:40:07 GMT
A couple of my snails go green after a bath or in very damp conditions - but not in hotter humid ones. Maybe a temperature and humidity change might be the cause?
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Dani
Archachatina marginata
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Post by Dani on Nov 26, 2006 9:36:38 GMT
ARGH!! Thank god i found this post! I couldn't remember where it was but I knew i'd seen it Just noticed the other day that my biggest fulica has turned green!!!! I have 2, they are both the same age (about 7 months old) and captive bred. Did we come to a conclusion as to why this happens? I was quite shocked when I noticed it the other day as his shell has turned a definite green colour! My other is fine as are my suturalis. Thanks, Dani x
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Post by ian on Apr 3, 2007 19:01:17 GMT
I have two that are greenish, they are my eldest (elderly) two fulica the younger ones even those related to the green ones are still dark. I had always assumed it was age.
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escargots
Achatina fulica
I have three fulicas, little jasper and big stripe and polly!
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Post by escargots on Dec 8, 2007 17:02:38 GMT
i asked my biology teacher who says it might have something to do with seaasons in thier original country to help camoflage, but it wouldn't explain why some are and others not, :s
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Post by marianne on Dec 10, 2007 7:22:47 GMT
And it doesn´t matter what do you feed to them?My fulicas are not yet so "greenish", but im afraid of that they will be..
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Post by fabrizio on Dec 11, 2007 16:07:10 GMT
Hi, very interesting fact, and I saw them on the german website that Gabi indicated, how beautiful they are! I believe it's due to some genetical pre-disposition, elicited perhaps by some environmental factors; but if it wasn't genetic, then all of the fulicas in the same tank would turn green, sooner or later.... and don't be fooled, by the fact that they "become" green, many genetical traits are expressed later in life, or only under particular circumstances! As we debated in the "International Snail Association" topic, it would be important to recognize and breed apart any interesting mutations, even in the more "common" species. So I would strongly recommend to any owners, to select apart their "greenest" specimen, this would be truly a worthwhile new breed of fulicas, and I would be very happy to get a couple myself, in the future! As to genetic basis, I believe it's a trait coming from a common, shared ancient genetic pool of Achatinidae; as there is at least another "green" species of the same family, Atopocochlis exarata, from Guinea Gulf (a wonderful species that should be introduced in colture, of course); and there are more scattered, unrelated species, as the well-known green one in the Papuina genus. And it would be interesting, by resorting to some biological laboratory, to ascertain if this unusual fulica's colour is due "simply" to some symbiotic algae; a notable genetic trait itself, if it's really so! You can see this "green" member of Achatinidae, at the following link www.arnobrosi.com/worldafrica.html --> Fabrizio
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bexy086
Achatina fulica
Baby Sedric (hes much bigger now!)
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Post by bexy086 on Jan 12, 2008 20:28:05 GMT
Oh I am so glad i found this. My snail, Sedric is a Fulica who is about 8months old now and I was beginning to wonder if he was getting ill with him turning green. As you can see from the picture he wasnt green when he was smaller.
Thanks for putting my mind at rest xxx
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Rachel
Archachatina puylaerti
They see me snailin'
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Post by Rachel on Jan 16, 2008 18:17:24 GMT
i'd say its a genetic throwback, it could skip generations and then suddenly re appear. Its definately an interesting topic though.
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Post by charisma on Feb 11, 2008 12:55:36 GMT
One of mine was green for a while (as I can see in some old photos I took of him), but he isn't anymore. It was beautiful while it lasted though!
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