LisaLQ
Archachatina papyracea
Old friend (emphasis on the "old")
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Post by LisaLQ on Jul 17, 2006 1:22:46 GMT
Oh you know, I never thought of that? I might give that a go if it's safe? Just a quick update, he's sulking and sleeping in the same spot and only moving his head to get to his food, but really, that's not much different to normal - being the lazy fat git he is ;D No but in all honesty, he isn't moving about as much as I'd hope he would, but he's not dead, and he's not retracted, so I think it's just the change has shocked him a bit. I'll let you know how he gets on
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Post by luvfishies on Jul 17, 2006 2:07:37 GMT
Oh do keep us updated, please!
Lisa, I'm coming from aquatics here, but the mantle for them is made from high protien foods, whether veggie or meat. It seems pretty reasonable to take the next leap and make sure s/he gets lots of proteins if there's any issue at all with a suspected mantle collapse, if we correlate the way shells are grown between wetpets and landpets.
I'd try and offer him some lightly cooked chicken, well moistened with calcium-enriched misting. Just a tiny bit a couple of times a week!
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LisaLQ
Archachatina papyracea
Old friend (emphasis on the "old")
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Post by LisaLQ on Jul 20, 2006 0:42:30 GMT
Thanks ever so much to everyone who's offered advice (and for the lovely messages) A quick update before I head off to bed. Cooper isn't himself, he's not eating as much as normal and considering he was a gannet before, and the sheer lardy size of him, you can tell he's not feeling too good. He's not moving around as much as I'd hope, rarely moving his whole body at all - just turning one way or another to reach cuttlefish/food or get away from them to sleep. Sleep is pretty much all he is doing. He does come out when I check on him though, so he's not permanently in his shell, and there was some food missing and a poo today but that's been it since he went in there. I'm hoping he'll perk up a bit? I held him today to see if the mantle was still coming away, but he didn't move enough to stretch it, and considering the day he did it it looked fixed, then wasn't later, I cant really tell whether that's getting better. Short of putting a rocket up his bum so I can watch him move around, or dangling him from his foot - there's no way to tell. I'm assuming he's sore and fed up, so I'm leaving him be mostly, only going in to spray and feed. We'll see how it goes
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tiia
Achatina achatina
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Post by tiia on Jul 23, 2006 13:23:48 GMT
my snail have collapsed mantle too! what can I do!?
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Post by anjieburdett on Jul 24, 2006 9:51:05 GMT
The only thing you can do Tiia, get him into a really shallow tank so that he can't climb and put pressure on his shell as it dangles. This will give it time to reapirs itself.
Anjie,x.
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Post by ian on Apr 6, 2007 13:57:49 GMT
Just found my one of my fulica with a collapsed mantle, its the first ive seen even though ive been keeping GALS for mos tof my life. I think it is a severe collapse not a tear because all of the flesh had dropped down there was no parts still connected to the shell. I pushed the snail back in, there was less than am CM of flesh hanging down. This happened last night as she was fine when i went to bed. She seems to be eating and moving around a bit. I would like to know the cause of this injury to prevent it from occuring to others. The snail is almost 4 year sold and quite large and heavy, is that particulalry old for a fulica?
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goose
Achatina immaculata
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Post by goose on Apr 6, 2007 18:46:15 GMT
I am not sure about the cause of the injury as I have never experienced it - it sounds awful and I do feel for you - it can only be distressing to see. As for the age I have one fulica who is approximately 6 years old although I am not sure if that is unusual. 4 years I would say was at least average - certainly not ancient.
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Post by ian on Apr 8, 2007 11:44:04 GMT
yes i didnt think 4 years was particularly old.
The snail died during the night so lived for only 12 hours since the collapse. I have some really charming pictures i might put them on the forum later.
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Post by slimeaddict on Apr 8, 2007 12:03:22 GMT
I'm really sorry to hear that - it's always heartbreaking when we lose a pet. Does anyone have a picture of a snail with a colapsed mantle as it is not something I have expereinced and can't really picture it...
Thanks
Adam
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Post by bogieman on Apr 8, 2007 13:28:17 GMT
I know I am new to all this but in A&E they are gluing tears with super glue.
Would this work?
(Please don't try it without checking first it is just a thought)
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Post by ian on Apr 12, 2007 19:07:44 GMT
Ok here are my pictures of my fulicas severe total mantle collapse, its quite digusting and may be upsetting to some so im going to leave a big gap and you can avoid looking at it................. ........... ......... ......... ......... ....... ..... .... .. . .. ...... ...... ......... ......... .......... ......... this picture shows the snail about 4 hours after the collapse, already the flesh has come away completely from the curved part of the shell, the columnella is still attatched, therefore it is the only part actually holding the snail in its shell. By this point i had restricted the snail but she was still moving and feeding. Here the following morning the snail has died and the body has no grip on the shell apart from a very small section of the columnella. Just after this picture i held the snail upside down and the body fell out instantly. I dont think there is anything that could have been done to prevent death in a tear this severe, however from what ive read much smaller tears are more common and can be repaired with time.
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Buse
Achatina fulica
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Post by Buse on Apr 12, 2007 22:13:42 GMT
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