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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2005 10:29:39 GMT
is this society going to have a magazine?
the conchological society has a magazine called 'mollusc world' and i got a copy, but its not really for me, its about shell collecting and water snails and snail recipes and stuff.
but i think a magazine with pictures and articles would be a good idea.
whats this society going to be called? is it gonna have a latin motto? is it gonna have a president, vice-president, treasurer, secretary, editor, etc. etc.
maybe we shud look at other society websites for ideas
we shud try and be a respectable society, and maybe all the snail people in europe could join.
i hope you all succeed, if i can help in any way, just let me know.
kind regards
mike
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Post by Leah on Jul 11, 2005 12:16:17 GMT
That's a great Idea! I love writing so if you did want to do a magazine I would be more than happy to contribute.
Paul, you do not sound aggresive, you sound passionate, tis a wonderful thing.
I'd love to be a member of such a society. The idea of bringing people together from different countries is great. I've learn't so much from this site and met some very interesting people and made a few friends to (hiya Ceiron!). Not sure how usefull I'd be but I'd try my very best, I'm not sure what you need but I'd be willing to do as much as I can. Is there enough room for 2 oddballs Fredrik? lol.
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Post by Paul on Jul 11, 2005 16:19:28 GMT
This society can be whatever we wish, it is totally dependent on who is prepared to do what. So a newsletter/magazine is a great idea. I'd suggest we need someone to head the magazine, and editor so-to-speak. Then people will know where to send their articles etc. I'd also suggest that for now, it takes the form of an on-line document, like a pdf. This could be printed and sent should anyone require it that way, but it makes our lives easier for editing and distribution. I'm happy to create a magazine area on the site where all the issues can be viewed and downloaded.
I think it would need some direction though. One way to go about this would be to have 3 parts, beginners, intermediate and advanced. So, in each issue there are articles for everyone. One of my main bugbears about magazines is that they often only cater for beginners, you find the same info appearing every 6 months. That's fine in my opinion, provided people who have seen all this have a chance to get into more advanced topics.
We need to start jotting down ideas of what kind of information would go in it. Will it be drawn from the website and forum or will it contain new things? And if so how and it what ways?
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 16:41:10 GMT
Oh! Oh! I know! ask me! *jumps up and down with her hand up*
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 16:43:19 GMT
ASK ME! OH PLEEEEEAAASE!!!!
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 16:46:38 GMT
fine then. dont answer
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 16:47:12 GMT
umm................ i just forgot my really good idea! i post back when i rmember it
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Post by thegreatloofa on Jul 11, 2005 16:52:10 GMT
Calm down dear, It's only a magazine! I'll go shoot myself now
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Post by Paul on Jul 11, 2005 17:14:08 GMT
It's really not up to me Sophie, it's for everyone to agree. I see no problem with it though I think it may take a few people to be honest.
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 17:17:13 GMT
oops. something went wrong in that post.
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 17:18:07 GMT
ok, i just remembered. My idea was that in this magazine/ newsletter we could have different sections, although that was quite obviuos. One part could be about all the new tips we could give people. other sections about their fav food and stuff that is more detailed and specailized than: they like lettuce and cucumber. and the last bit i can think of at the moment is a snail watch, and we can have this every week/month. then we can put in their activities/ what they did and stuff like that.
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 17:18:28 GMT
tell me if that makes sense. lol
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Post by thegreatloofa on Jul 11, 2005 17:27:11 GMT
That makes sense but I'd have said Snail Watch would be the monitoring of what snails are for sale and where, for those who want snails that aren't available from members of the society.
e.g. someone sees a rare snail on ebay, so they report it so everyone who wants it can have one.
The only problem is the frequency of the magazine, if its monthly the ebay snail will most likely have been and gone before it is reported.
So maybe the person who saw them buys the lot and then sells them on through the mag to other readers?
Any other ideas?
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Post by Paul on Jul 11, 2005 17:49:06 GMT
The trouble is that the internet is much better for things like classifieds and unless we find people willing to print and distribute I think initially the magazine would be restricted to existing online. And like you said, frequency would be a problem.
I'd just like to say at this point that if anyone does want to write articles on anything snail related I'll always find a place to put it on my website. The more contributions the better.
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Post by Leah on Jul 11, 2005 19:00:34 GMT
I really like the beginners/ intermediate/ expert idea. That way, people are going to be able to learn what they need to at the right level, and they can then become more expert if they wanted, at their own pace. You could have an adverts page for those that are selling snails. I think it would be a good way of showing others any research. You could have like a research section where you can post up-to-date news on any decoveries (like the identity crises the snails appear to be having). I think you could do more fun things with it to, like a page to show interesting pictures or an art section. That way it's gonna appeal to us that are more artsy than sciency aswell and to younger people to. I really like Sophie's idea about different sections. If you had, for example, a section about housing in each issue, you could write about new products available for substrate, decoration and tanks. This would work for any topic.
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 19:03:23 GMT
yeah! and how about with every section there are some adverts at the bottom of the page incase people wanted to get some of the stuff!
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Post by Leah on Jul 11, 2005 19:16:27 GMT
Yeah, or maybe there could be a page of where to find all the things that we mention and costs and stuff. I've just had a thought, I know this is getting a little detailed but we could do product testing, maybe for a different topic each issue. So like one issue we test housing, the next we test substrate, things like that. That would also aid any research because we would be continually looking for whats best for the snails.
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Post by Paul on Jul 11, 2005 19:38:28 GMT
That's a good idea. How it exists as a magazine is up for debate. If you could see my plans for the website you'd see that the site is intended to be encyclopedic. I have designed an equipment/retailers section where you will be able to review things and leave comments so that is similar.
i think the adverts should pay for anything we need. Perhaps, to buy things needed for a test or review. We may even get donations by various manufacturers in the form of a piece of equipment. Then we can make sure whoever wishes to do a review gets these kind of things.
You know, the magazine could be a summary of all the updated info since the last issue. I think that would be good because the website remains central and the master copy for the info. The magazine would then be a rolling thing, showing updates and including the new articles but compiled in a magazine style. It would be useful to people in that sense I think, because it can be hard to follow websites when your looking for new updates. That way it serves two purposes and the website itself doesn't make the magazine redundant. It will make the job of creating the magazine much easier and because the information has a place to sit, it can be added to all month (etc) long without a mad rush to make an editorial.
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 19:47:47 GMT
You just gave me an idea! How about we try and get someone who prints magazines to print off the newsletters? And maybe leah [or me] could do a front or back cover?
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Post by Paul on Jul 11, 2005 19:51:38 GMT
Sounds like a plan, depends on the amounts involved really. I have some experience of commercial printing and anything under 500 would be more cost effective printed on home equipment.
Having said that, if we did compile it as a pdf etc, we can have a front and back cover designed by whoever wished to do one. The whole magazine can look however we wish it to. And at the very least, you could print your own copy out or take it on a disk to a local shop to get it printed.
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Post by Leah on Jul 11, 2005 19:51:41 GMT
I'd be more than happy to. Is there some way we can design it together? A bit tricky online I know.
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Post by Paul on Jul 11, 2005 19:54:57 GMT
I would say, for each issue, someone designs a front and back cover.
If we did it the way we suggested, I could send all the articles since the last one to the editor. I can do this fairly easily. Then the editor can chop some order into it.
If we need any bits filling up with extra design, they can then be requested and voila. The editor will need to be very good at Desktop Publishing.
As for actual section design, I see no reason why desigs can't be shown here and voted on, or cycled to be fair.
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Post by Leah on Jul 11, 2005 20:00:08 GMT
Tis a good idea. I like the idea that each issue would be different. If someone different designs it each time its another way of involving more people. So those that don't like writing or don't yet know much about snails, they can still be part of it by doing some designing and also putting things together.
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 20:02:09 GMT
if no one else except from leah wants to do the covers then ME! ME! CHOOSE ME!!!!!!
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Post by bookitten on Jul 11, 2005 20:02:28 GMT
oops, forgot to mention, that we need a logo.
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