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Nov 16, 2005 9:08:32 GMT
Post by Paul on Nov 16, 2005 9:08:32 GMT
I've just read about a type that is used to kill slugs, Phasmarhabditis Hermaphrodita. I don't think these are it but the slugs symptoms seem similar to that deep retraction problem. Lack of eating, lack of activity, although apparently it kills them much quicker, 4 -5 days. If they were, all my snails would be dead by now, so it obviously isn't but I thought I'd pass the info on out of interest as one of the symptoms is a swollen mantle.
A good reason to keep wild native snails away from your snails as these things routinely infect Cornu aspersum. Amazing what you find out when you're digging.
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Nov 16, 2005 16:02:13 GMT
Post by sonicsnail on Nov 16, 2005 16:02:13 GMT
I have had worms in the tanks before. This is generally where there has been lots of moisture. I would describe the worms I have seen to have tiny black heads and can be found anywhere in the tank. These ones that I found in my tanks where about 5-7mm long possible 1cm at their very, very biggest. I would like to know whether they are harmful to humans or if humans can be infected with these. The didn't seem to mind the snails. but I also want to know if they are harmful to them too. Btw. these snails are all captive bred ones; I have no wild caught.
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Nov 16, 2005 17:23:57 GMT
Post by Paul on Nov 16, 2005 17:23:57 GMT
The ones I have don't have black heads but from what I have been reading they sound like they could be...
Planaria: flat worms, like slugs, white to tan to brownish or gray. They all have an arrow shaped head with 2 eye spots. Danger: Usually harmless, but Planaria will eat fish eggs.
Medium thick wormy thing with black head: 4-5mm long. Looks a little like a grub with no legs, yellow-white body, black grublike head. It's probably the larva of some type of water beetle. Danger: none.
If you get them again, its worth getting them identified so we can start building up information about these things.
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Nov 16, 2005 18:11:02 GMT
Post by sonicsnail on Nov 16, 2005 18:11:02 GMT
Medium thick wormy thing with black head: 4-5mm long. Looks a little like a grub with no legs, yellow-white body, black grublike head. It's probably the larva of some type of water beetle. Danger: none. That certainly sounds like the ones that were in my tanks. However, I don't think they turned into beetles.
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Dec 1, 2005 17:30:07 GMT
Post by franck on Dec 1, 2005 17:30:07 GMT
I come perhaps a later Paul, but nematodes are not specialy in faeces and you can have this parasite into the body of animal and you can't see them. It arrives that this type of parasite come out of the body and you can find them in substrate then. I have the problem with a first generation of breeding of fulica from Martinique and I will treate them to kill the parasites. To do it there is a solution that a friend has used with success : you place the snails in a tank, the best solution is to individualize the snails, and you give them dry food where you place a vermifuge (Stromiten was the product used with success). For the dry food you can used a composition of corn floor with powder of egg shell and powder of dry food for turtles or rabbits (commercial food under the form of stopper ("bouchon" in french and I am not sure for the translate). I think that it is a serious solution to use for new specimens because you can have serious risk with wild caught because some parasites can be vector of diseases. And it is not necessary to exaggerate the problem of parasites but I think that it is really a good prevention.
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Dec 4, 2005 15:08:02 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Dec 4, 2005 15:08:02 GMT
ewwwwwwwwwwww, i got little translucent white wormy things in my fulica tank! they are almost like maggots in the way they move, what shall i do? what did you do?
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Dec 4, 2005 15:16:20 GMT
Post by sonicsnail on Dec 4, 2005 15:16:20 GMT
ewwwwwwwwwwww, i got little translucent white wormy things in my fulica tank! they are almost like maggots in the way they move, what shall i do? what did you do? Sounds like the worm things that I have found in my tanks. What I would do is to give the tank a good clean out. Make sure you get right in the edges of the tank with a brush or something like that. I'm not sure about this but it worked for me...I poured boiling water in to and around my plastic tanks. They were already cracked a bit at the edges and actually didn't crack any more when I poured the boiling water on. I'm not sure about pouring boiling water on to a glass tank...that may crack. Since doing that, I have had no problem with these worms. Sarah, these worms may have some from your wild caught snails??? (If you have any) If you don't think they did come from those snails then what also helps to prevent them from the worms from returning is to buy a plastic food dish thing. Put the food in there and keep it from toughing the substrate. I think the food attracts these pests, even after you think that you may have got rid of them. Hope this helps.
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Dec 4, 2005 15:23:03 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Dec 4, 2005 15:23:03 GMT
only my tigers are wild caught and they are fine, it's in my fulica tank, and i do keep there food in a dish.
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Dec 4, 2005 15:26:34 GMT
Post by sonicsnail on Dec 4, 2005 15:26:34 GMT
Well all I can think of is to clean the tank out as I suggested. It's horrible when these pests come back time and time again for no apparent reason. Fortunately, pouring the boiling water on the tanks seemed to get rid of the problem.
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Dec 4, 2005 16:27:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2005 16:27:51 GMT
i had worms, but that was because i was using compost. after a few changes with coir i never see the little bastards.
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Dec 4, 2005 17:09:17 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Dec 4, 2005 17:09:17 GMT
i use compost :-( can you buy coir from shops?
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Dec 4, 2005 17:23:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2005 17:23:29 GMT
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Dec 4, 2005 17:37:03 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Dec 4, 2005 17:37:03 GMT
can you not get it from garden centres
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Dec 4, 2005 18:07:14 GMT
Post by sonicsnail on Dec 4, 2005 18:07:14 GMT
I still use peat and so far since cleaning out the tanks with boiling water I have had no problems.
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Dec 4, 2005 19:36:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2005 19:36:36 GMT
can you not get it from garden centres er...i doubt it...
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Dec 6, 2005 14:20:39 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Dec 6, 2005 14:20:39 GMT
Has anyone ever thought that these might be the larvae of fruit flies or other little annoying flies, and that in fact they may not bother the snails at all
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Dec 6, 2005 14:26:15 GMT
Post by Paul on Dec 6, 2005 14:26:15 GMT
Has anyone ever thought that these might be the larvae of fruit flies or other little annoying flies, and that in fact they may not bother the snails at all Yes, but all the various fly larvae are maggots and not worms. I've seen fruit-fly larvae and they are not the same. The things I have seen are translucent worms that move like a worm. Fluke's are very similar apparently. Also, there is no "caster" stage which you sometimes find if you have a fly infestation.
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Dec 6, 2005 14:46:57 GMT
Post by sezzy5889 on Dec 6, 2005 14:46:57 GMT
the ones i have move like maggots, in that sort of caterpillar without legs sort of way
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Dec 6, 2005 15:17:51 GMT
Post by Paul on Dec 6, 2005 15:17:51 GMT
Yeah, they sound like fly larvae. The ones I had wriggled in an S shape like bloodworms swimming, only transclucent.
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Dec 28, 2005 23:42:20 GMT
Post by Paul on Dec 28, 2005 23:42:20 GMT
I managed to get some pictures using macro mode through a magnifying glass. I got rid of the others from my tiger tank, these have now appeared in my small snails tank. I only ever find them on the side of the tank near any condensation which is hard to avoid at this time of year. They seem to glue little eggs to the side, that appear as tiny dots. I think that is what they are. They are about 5-15mm in size.
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Dec 29, 2005 11:04:24 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2005 11:04:24 GMT
I managed to get some pictures using macro mode through a magnifying glass. I got rid of the others from my tiger tank, these have now appeared in my small snails tank. I only ever find them on the side of the tank near any condensation which is hard to avoid at this time of year. They seem to glue little eggs to the side, that appear as tiny dots. I think that is what they are. They are about 5-15mm in size. i used to have those on the side of my tank. after switching to coir theyre gone, because coir doesnt have any little animals in.
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Dec 29, 2005 11:53:28 GMT
Post by Paul on Dec 29, 2005 11:53:28 GMT
i used to have those on the side of my tank. after switching to coir theyre gone, because coir doesnt have any little animals in. These are in Coir, never had them in soil or peat. I've actually contacted wigglywigglers to see if they actually supply their compressed coir with worm eggs for composting. They sell a lot of composting worms etc so I'm wondering if they pre-load the coir or if they can recognise them for me. Not one item from outside has come into contact with the coir. After last time, I threw all the coir away and now the new batch is sporting baby worms. I noticed them in the coir last night.
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Dec 29, 2005 14:43:54 GMT
Post by sophie on Dec 29, 2005 14:43:54 GMT
ahhhhh paul i am so happy u posted a pic of them! i have those most likely tiger eggs in a little pot with transparent sides. I will just have a look at the eggs through the pot and will notice 1 or 2 [maybe even 3 ] of these little worms. at first i thought they were baby earth worms, but then saw this thread ;D . and also about the eggs - i believe i saw some, they were little dots [white] in a clump. will they harm the eggs? i want to be extra extra careful with these eggs. they're in compost btw. and i ahvent noticed any in my snail tank tho. Should i risk disturbing the eggs to clean them out or leave them? and also completely off this topic, but i cant find the post or thread now, can u put woodlice in ur snail tank?
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Worms
Dec 30, 2005 10:54:06 GMT
Post by Paul on Dec 30, 2005 10:54:06 GMT
Yeah, woodlice are a good idea, I think Arno uses them. I'm not sure what to do with the worms in your egg tub. I'd keep an eye on them to see if they are eating the eggs but I doubt it.
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Dec 31, 2005 13:01:26 GMT
Post by sophie on Dec 31, 2005 13:01:26 GMT
wud the woodlice crawl up the sides of my tank and out the holes?
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