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Post by section8angel on Jan 13, 2006 23:06:50 GMT
I bought some nice cheap clip on lights today, 3 of them = one for each shelf. I'm not going to bother spending out on reptile ones, as I think normal bulbs will do the job just as well. If I still get red ones, then it might still work partly like the reptile ones and not disturb them too much... .... But saying that, I put one on the shelf where the fulica tank and the iredalei/smithii tanks are about an hour or so ago, just with a normal bulb in that I use in my desk lamp, and the smithii and iredalei are out and about and seem to be enjoying it even though the light is bright!! They don't normally come out unless I've sprayed them or it's dark, so this is great! (The fulica are out nearly all the time so their movement isn't as amazing lol) The temp has gone up to 24c from 22c. I put the light on the opposite end to the thermometer, but obviously the temp inside might be a bit less or more as it's an outside therm so not totally acurate, but if that's what that side is like, the side the lamp is actually on must be lovely lol. I'll still get some red bulbs to use anyway as I doubt Freddie will come out with this bright one on, and it'll be better for my eyes too lol. (They're hella bright bulbs with a shade on, so it's mad without one!) The bulb I'm using at the moment is only a small 40w globe one, and with the heat that chucks out the red 60w's should be lovely ;D. I might even just get 40w red ones. I'll probably get a mix and see lol. I'll hook the others up tomorrow with these normal bulbs, as I don't think the dimis will mind the light and it's mainly them I'm doing it for to see if it makes them grow faster. Will let you know how it goes
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Post by Arno on Jan 14, 2006 16:43:54 GMT
You're right about using ordinary lights doing the job(see the link to the article). I'm curious how different kinds of lights will affect snails,so will follow your little experiment with interest. www.anapsid.org/liteheat.htmla very good article about lights,and,I think,very useful too
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Post by section8angel on Jan 14, 2006 22:11:47 GMT
Cheers for that, have had a quick glance at it, will look more in a bit.
I ordered 3 bulbs from ebay today (not going to a diy store anytime soon so got them on there as I want them asap lol) I bought 2 the same kind but got a 40w and a 60w and then the other is a different type but they only had 60w's so I got that (It's a different red).
I got all 3 of them (postage is free on all their bulbs) for only about a pound more than -one- reptile bulb would be -without- postage, on the site I found that had them the cheapest.
So not a bad deal me thinks ;D
Just a quick question, is there a certain distance away from the tank the lights should be? Or will it not matter too much? At the moment the one I have set up (was too tired to do the others lol) is about 2 to 3 inches away from the front of the tank. Is that ok, or should I move it back more?
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Post by Arno on Jan 14, 2006 23:13:23 GMT
It doesn't matter too much,obviously the closer they are to the tank the more effective they will be.
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Post by ceiron on Jan 16, 2006 10:11:15 GMT
you dont need reptile bulbs however theyneed to be true red glassnot just painted,as painted will have the exact same effect as normal bulbs.
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Post by section8angel on Jan 16, 2006 13:38:29 GMT
What effect? The brightness?
I've had loads of different red, blue and green bulbs before and they were dimmer but still gave off lots of heat. If these do that then that's perfect.
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Post by ceiron on Jan 17, 2006 9:34:35 GMT
painted glass bulbs are identical to normal bulbs in the fact the animal can still see the whole colour spectrum as the paint they use is just to give the effect of a diff coloured light, it doesnt filter out all the other colours.
so if a normal bulb disturbs them thne the painted ones are likely to have the same effect.
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Post by section8angel on Jan 17, 2006 10:56:10 GMT
Ahh I see. Thanks for explaining. It hasn't actually disturbed them though. I said Freddie probably wont like it, but then Freddie doesn't like moving unless he has too . And I thought it might disturb the others but as I said the ones I put the light on first came out with it on. It distubs me more than them because they're so bright, but I know my previous coloured bulbs weren't as bad. I put them on all three shelves a few days ago and have had them turned on everyday and they've all been fine with them. The dimis and margies haven't loved them, but it didn't stop them doing their normal routine lol. The smithii and iredalei are more active, and I haven't checked the little reti or the rodatzi, but the big reti and the panthera came out with them on. My red bulbs arrived this morning, so will put them in and see if it makes any difference. As the snailies aren't minding the bright light, making it better on my eyes is the main thing now lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2006 11:24:53 GMT
so does more light make them more active?
that sounded so dumb...
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Post by section8angel on Jan 17, 2006 11:26:08 GMT
Lol no it didn't.
I think it's more the heat than the light, that's what I bought them for, more heat. They just don't seem to mind the light.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2006 11:28:32 GMT
well if i turn on the apple snail's light she instantly wakes up and starts moving.
but since snails are nocturnal, and we're trying to recreate nature....
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Post by deadmansfinger on Jan 17, 2006 11:29:22 GMT
I certainly find more heat increases there appetite which makes sense but I find my margies in particular avoid the light and as soon as the timer switches the lights off they all come out like clockwork.
Brian ;D
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Post by ceiron on Jan 17, 2006 12:38:44 GMT
where does it say they are nocturnal always thoughht personnaly theyt tended to be more crespuclur or di urnal then nocturnal.
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Post by Kevin on Jan 17, 2006 12:44:43 GMT
Most of my snails (dimidiata, fulica, smithii, retic's etc..) are fairly active through the day, all my marginata and tiger snail's though are very nocturnal, Ive only ever seen them active at night. It says they are primarily nocturnal, though can be encouraged to emerge at other times of the day very easilly on the care guide page, www.petsnails.co.uk/index.php?action=care&type=intro
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2006 15:31:04 GMT
yeh most snails are naturally nocturnal
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Post by section8angel on Jan 19, 2006 16:10:30 GMT
Most of mine only come out at night unless I spray them. Then they come out asap lol but they normally go back to sleep again pretty quickly if it's light. They're working they're working!! ;D My iredalei, dimis and baby margie have all grown this week! Woooo. And my little albino retis shell is also looking better and he's been out more! Before they were only growing noticeably (like a cm or two) every 2 weeks or more, but in the 4 days or so since the lights have been set up, the 3 I said about have grown at least a cm! The red bulbs are much nicer too. No where near as bright but still good for the heat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2006 16:25:22 GMT
yay ;D
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Post by section8angel on Jan 19, 2006 18:47:36 GMT
Forgot to say that the temp went up to 28 in most of the tanks the other day ;D from 22 up to 28 yay!!
They were on for a bit longer than usual that time though, normally it goes to about 26 which is great ;D
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