I am new please help

[martin80pl]

Hi
I just received my snails a lot off different ones
2x albino fulica 2x albino reticulata 2x rodatzi and about 15 eggs
I am very wory the snails are all different size Age from very little to about 3cm a pair albino reticulata
ALL OF THEM part of one looks death to me when i was putting them in to the new home was moving now they did not come out for a second I read they may hibernate ok so it will not be problem with the 3cm what i can do about them which only 4mm
Like not enough trouble some of the babies start hatching from eggs so and they look happy so i have mixture of snails and really do not know what’s is going on
I own 2 fulicia for 1 year and I have 10 of the babies but I never had this problem with them

[malti]

give them warm baths (not hot water, lukewarm) and keep them at a steady hot temperature, spray them, and give them fresh veggies. also the very small ones, you should isolate them. If any one of them starts smelling badly, means its dead

[martin80pl]

Thank you
I will do it at the moment in the tank is 21 C
I was just worry that the small ones will drawn

So if I good understand the two bigger albinos should go to different tank??

[malti]

do not leave the small ones in the water for a long time and if the size is very big yes you have to seperate them

[martin80pl]

Thank you
I am afraid I discovered that two of them did not survive the rest I manage to weak up but they do not behave the same way as my which been born in my tank
My jungsters and the adult pair are very active eating well happy and all the rest soon I put back in the tanks goes sleep and do not move they do not eat much
Are the in the shock??
Did any one knows how long will take them to get to normal maybe they are ill ??

[malti]

Sept 17, 2009 21:03:40 GMT martin80pl said:

Thank you
I am afraid I discovered that two of them did not survive the rest I manage to weak up but they do not behave the same way as my which been born in my tank
My jungsters and the adult pair are very active eating well happy and all the rest soon I put back in the tanks goes sleep and do not move they do not eat much
Are the in the shock??
Did any one knows how long will take them to get to normal maybe they are ill ??

how long have they been in transit? If you fear they are ill, put them on their own, continue giving them hot baths, and tempt them with food they like...keep us informed

[martin80pl]

Today was second day so maybe I am panicking little bit I will every evening try to wake them up so they can have some food and I will keep you informed

[malti]

its ok wish you all the best

[martin80pl]

The news is another 3 went
I was reading last night that is really hard to save them from deep retraction
My snails have all the symptoms they are not looking good
I waste money and time but this is not a problem is that I cannot stop thinking that i am doing something wrong or not doing everything to stop them from passing away
At the moment the situation is
1st quarantine tank temp 21C 2x albino reticulata about 3cm 2x rodatzi about2cm 1 wood snail all not doing well not eating not moving 3 attempts to woke them up fresh food and all but nothing yet worked for longer than 10 to 20 min

2nd quarantine tank temp 23C 3x albino reticulata about 5mm in size little more active last night after 2nd attempt to woke them 6x just hatched snails In the parcel was 15 eggs with albino fulica, albino reticulata, rodatzi cannot tell which is which they are to small The very small ones are little better than the rest only one found dead last night and 4x Brazilian trumpets spend long time buried but when i pick them they start going around and eat little bit
Thats where i found the previous dead together 5 so far all around 5-6 mm big

Big tank 2 adult fulicia parents about 13cm happy as ever

Preschool tank with 20 fulicia babies around 1cm
All my Fulicia are happy eating, playing football, reading, watching TV so I can tell the difference between them and the quarantine tanks with the new arrivals.

Please tell me what else I can do to help the new snails

[malti]

I'm terribly sorry to hear that...I don't know what else to tell you, maybe someone more experienced than me could help

[martin80pl]

PLEASEEEEEE HELLLPPPPP

[Dusk]

It sounds like you're doing everything you can for them - I'm afraid I don't know what else to suggest

[coyote]

I'm so sorry about your snails. As you said, deep retraction is a difficult problem. No one really knows what causes it or how to treat it. Most of the time we do our best for our snails but sometimes they pass away in spite of that. I suspect that many times there is nothing that can be done for them, and that is hard to accept.

[martin80pl]

I will do my best
Thanks for all the warm words
I think is being in the post for 3 days my contribute to the retraction
I will contact the seller and see what she thinks
If any of them will survive I will let you know

[malti]

Sept 19, 2009 12:20:30 GMT martin80pl said:

I will do my best
Thanks for all the warm words
I think is being in the post for 3 days my contribute to the retraction
I will contact the seller and see what she thinks
If any of them will survive I will let you know

my snails have taken longer in the post and touch wood no ill effects

[siobhanc54]

This sounds very similar to an experience I have had, bought 2 snails but when they arrived I had been sent 9! Mine had been packed like sardines in a tub with no air holes no room to even stretch while in the postal system I don't know if this was the cause?
From the beginning it was hard to get them out to eat, and one by one they retracted and died, hopefully this won't happen to yours, I have 3 left that are well now 2 approx 6 month old snails and one baby that is the size of a 1 month old snail despite me having had her for 3 now and she is only just growing, nothing I did could help, I do have a little advice that may help towards the end I bought pumpkin seeds that seemed to help and also when I started seeing inprovements in any of the snails I moved them from the ill ones the one time I didn't do this because I didn't want to risk putting it in with some that had recovered he then went back to retracting and then died,
I also suggest you never touch your healthy snails without wasshing your hands just in case it's something that can be passed on, luckily I didn't mix mine with them or I don't know if I would have lost all my snails.
I wish you all the best with your snails and hope they all recover x

[martin80pl]

Well I will get for them some supplements seeds etc so far no worst no better
Still in two different quarantine tanks
I done very cruel test to tray see is that illness
I put 1 of my 20 babes of fulicia with 3 of the new arrivals which are the most active and look like they may recover. If he is gone start retracting we can be sure that is some kind of diesis
I will be contacting the seller I did not done yet as I was too upset
I will let you know after few days how the fulicia and the rest is doing i work some mad hours this week so my girlfriend keeps eye on them. She is not expert but I am still hoping to save some

I forgot to add that i made them worm bath in green tee how was suggested on the web i do not see any big change

[Rachel]

did you get in touch with the seller, they should be told the snails arrived ill and have been dying, if its disease their other snails may be infected. did you get them through ebay?

[martin80pl]

I contacted the seller and i am waiting for her to come back to me
Yes i did bay them on e bay

[martin80pl]

Hi is there anybody from Oxfordshire I would love to if somebody could come and have a look at my snails to see if it has any idea what to change to help them ?

[martin80pl]

Ok after long battle to save the snails I lost
Three of them are now still alive but they did not grow for the past 2 months
The seller never replay to me and She is member of this forum so I am really disappointed
Well I kept them I separate tank and time will show what next

I would like to thanks to all of you for the advice and support
I will let you know if any thing will happen

[coyote]

I'm so sorry about your snails, martin.