Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Oct 28, 2006 12:55:59 GMT
My next big breeding plan is to establish what Stella and Logan are and try to breed them. Even if they are "odd" fulica, like suspected, they're very different from any others and it would be nice to establish a line from them that are reliable, like your plans for the albinos. They are odd fulica i think, either that or a completly new species, because they only fit the look of fulica, if you could get pictures of Phoebe's adult snails, and find if theres any definite immaculata amongst them that may help ID them definitly, though you mentioned they have a pinkish columella, i read on here before that it may be possible for a fulica to have a pink columella. Have they laid any eggs yet? it may be worth hatching a few and seeing how they turn out? (sorry for taking thread offtopic)
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KathyM
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Post by KathyM on Oct 28, 2006 12:58:08 GMT
Sorry, I didn't mean to either *lol* - it's just your plans struck a chord with what we want to do.
Logan hasn't matured fully yet and I don't want Stella to mate with the others that are definitely fulica or fulica cross, in case she and Logan turn out to be something different. I've posted on the breeding board for advice on my plans. Thanks Kevin ;D
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 2, 2006 18:44:26 GMT
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Val
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Post by Val on Nov 2, 2006 18:49:00 GMT
BEAUTIFUL!!!! I wonder what it is about white snails that is so captivating, I just LOVE the white ones. Val
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 2, 2006 18:53:19 GMT
ive been wondering, white jade snails are definitly fulica arent they? anyone know how theres so many white bodied fulica in China?
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Val
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Post by Val on Nov 2, 2006 18:58:34 GMT
They breed them for food don't they?? and if they are as prolific as ordinary fulica, that is why there are so many of them I suppose.
Val
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 2, 2006 19:00:06 GMT
They breed them for food don't they?? and if they are as prolific as ordinary fulica, that is why there are so many of them I suppose. Val That makes sense, i imagine all the babies from eggs from them would probably also be white bodied. I wonder where they were from originally though? ive never seen a white bodied fulica available from anywhere in Africa.
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Val
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Post by Val on Nov 2, 2006 19:03:55 GMT
Perhaps they are 'man made' if you see what I mean, not a natural species at all, I think their shell is shorter than normal fulica isn't it??
Val
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 2, 2006 19:08:16 GMT
Perhaps they are 'man made' if you see what I mean, not a natural species at all, I think their shell is shorter than normal fulica isn't it?? Val Im not sure what size they get to? maybe theyre shells are smaller because of inbreeding i dont know?
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Post by Tigs on Nov 2, 2006 19:12:06 GMT
Iv been reading up on these but they only tend to refer to the "meat" weight - 100-150g.
The Chinese are producing these on a huge scale - 1000s of tonnes a year.
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 2, 2006 19:14:50 GMT
The Chinese are producing these on a huge scale - 1000s of tonnes a year. It would be amazing if all of them descended from a few white bodied fulica collected somewhere in Africa, as far as I know theyre very rare in Africa? so i cant imagine they're bringing in any from the wild anymore, if they did originally come from the wild in Africa.
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Val
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Post by Val on Nov 2, 2006 19:18:31 GMT
No I would definitely think they are being bred, not brought in from the wild now. After all if they are for 'meat' doesn't matter if they are inbred does it??
Val
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LisaLQ
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 2, 2006 20:59:38 GMT
Is it me or do they look more immac than fulica?
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Arno
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Post by Arno on Nov 2, 2006 21:08:10 GMT
No,that thought crossed my mind too,but it's really hard to tell from those pics.
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 2, 2006 22:31:59 GMT
out of the African species, they look most like fulica to me.
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Kevin
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Post by Kevin on Nov 3, 2006 13:07:56 GMT
I now am offering a very limited number of these snails, they should be with me next week, for more details see the classifieds board.
edit: All snails sold, please no more pm's about them.
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LisaLQ
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 3, 2006 13:38:06 GMT
PM-ed you Kevin, very interested.
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Post by Tigs on Nov 3, 2006 13:55:30 GMT
Great thing is hopefully these will breed at the same rate as "normals" so it wont be long before we all have some. ;D
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Post by grant2006 on Nov 3, 2006 14:15:00 GMT
DAM!! Missed out so unfair only signed out for an hour and look what happen
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LisaLQ
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 3, 2006 14:23:51 GMT
Great thing is hopefully these will breed at the same rate as "normals" so it wont be long before we all have some. ;D Fingers crossed. As I'm only getting one, I'll have to outbreed with one of my fulicas, probably Cooper because of his size, although I'm not sure. Even so, bred back to a baby - it shouldn't take too long? Next spring/summer between us all, there should be lots of albino fulicas available ;D
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teresa
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Post by teresa on Nov 3, 2006 14:36:11 GMT
if they breed as well as normals there will be plenty in no time at all
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DNKPets
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Post by DNKPets on Nov 3, 2006 14:36:20 GMT
Missed out on this one. Lets hope they are a prolific as the normal fulicas.
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gabi
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Post by gabi on Nov 3, 2006 14:59:26 GMT
Oh, I am sure, they are same productive like normal Fulica´s! It´s with the albino-reticulata the same. They have the same amount of eggs like normal reticulata and albino-marginata too have the same eggs-number like normal ones.
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Post by Tigs on Nov 3, 2006 15:08:27 GMT
Going at this rate the "Normals" will be the rare ones ;D
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Post by Goose wont let me log in on Nov 3, 2006 15:53:54 GMT
Aww disappointed - I haven't been able to log in since yesterday for some reason it won't let me and I have missed out - would have loved to save one from being eaten in China and next year is absolutely ages to wait for any babies. Never mind
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