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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 14, 2005 13:48:48 GMT
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Post by sezzy5889 on Nov 14, 2005 13:52:18 GMT
i think they are fulica, but you'll have to get someone elses opinion too
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Post by Kevin on Nov 14, 2005 13:56:43 GMT
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 14, 2005 14:03:02 GMT
They've got very light shells if they're fulicas. The last lot look like they have darker heads, but it might just be the photo quality. They look panthera (or even albopicta but that's unlikely) to me, but this is going on piccies not experience.
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Post by sezzy5889 on Nov 14, 2005 14:04:56 GMT
no they are fulica, but with very worn shells
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 14, 2005 14:07:23 GMT
They dont look worn to me, they look pale *shrugs*
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Post by sezzy5889 on Nov 14, 2005 14:08:55 GMT
why are you thinking of buying some because you can if you want, were just saying we are sure they are fulica
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Post by Kevin on Nov 14, 2005 14:10:28 GMT
They've got very light shells if they're fulicas. fulica can have very light shells, and are very variable in pattern, and even body colour, one of mine-
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Post by Kevin on Nov 14, 2005 14:12:53 GMT
why are you thinking of buying some because you can if you want, were just saying we are sure they are fulica I arent sure they're fulica, they look like pale fulica, I wouldnt be able to tell from the pictures though.
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 14, 2005 14:14:12 GMT
That's a much warmer tone though, and I haven't seen a fulica without that warm tone yours has. Erm. If that makes sense.
The bodies in the first two adverts look a bit fulica, but the shells are too grey-ish. Are there any other species who have paler almost taupe shells but fulica-ish bodies?
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 14, 2005 14:15:51 GMT
Thanks for your permission there Sarah *confused* I'm actually not thinking of buying them as I dont want more fulica if that's what they are. I just saw them and thought they were odd, and asked for an ident! But next time I feel like shopping on Ebay, I'll be sure to check for permission with you Sarah
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Post by Kevin on Nov 14, 2005 15:22:40 GMT
Ive decided to get 4 of these snails, they are probably fulica, and they'll go in one of my fulica tanks, but from the pics they're shells seem a lot lighter than my other fulica.
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Post by Paul on Nov 14, 2005 18:08:58 GMT
They look like fulica to me, but you just can't tell from, pictures like that.
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Post by Kevin on Nov 14, 2005 18:32:24 GMT
They look like fulica to me, but you just can't tell from, pictures like that. I agree, I'll get much better pictures when they arrive.
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Post by Kevin on Nov 16, 2005 11:52:27 GMT
I received the snails today, they're shells are badly worn they look almost like sea-shells, they're body colour is very fulica-like, I cant see they're columella colour, the snails were either out of they're shell too far to see it, or the colour had worn to match the rest of the shell colour, I think one had a red columella though..I'm leaving them settle in now, I'll get a better look later.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2005 13:21:02 GMT
oh well at least theyre not malnourished.
could you take a pic of the columella which has the most pigmentation?
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Post by Val on Nov 16, 2005 21:14:56 GMT
Even if they are fulica, at least they now have a good home!! Val
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Post by Kevin on Nov 16, 2005 21:55:47 GMT
Some pictures, one was buried in the soil, so I left him, got pics of the other three... Im not sure what colour they're columella was, I thought one may have had a red columella when I first saw them, but dont think so now...The last one, his shell lip...has an odd shape, around his shell lip, it's sortoff a groove there, I dont know how clear it is from the picture
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Post by section8angel on Nov 16, 2005 22:37:26 GMT
Well the two either side do look like worn fulica to me, but the one in the middle looks different. I know it doesn't have as many whorls, but the whole shell looks more bunched up than fulica I've seen. I know they vary a lot but the shell is normally long like the other two.
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Post by Kevin on Nov 16, 2005 23:30:13 GMT
Well the two either side do look like worn fulica to me, but the one in the middle looks different. I know it doesn't have as many whorls, but the whole shell looks more bunched up than fulica I've seen. I know they vary a lot but the shell is normally long like the other two. The snail in the middle in the second picture is the snail in the third picture..the one with the groove to the side of its mouth-opening.
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Post by Paul on Nov 16, 2005 23:36:49 GMT
The middle one and the last one looks like it has a non-truncated columella to me. I can't tell in the first. Also, the shell of 2 and possibly 3 have a very bulbous penultimate whorl. And the thing you mention about the groove, well it all sounds and looks like it could be a Megalobulimus: Bulbous WhorlGrooved Ridge on Shell LipI don't have a picture of the columella, doh! But it looks like it goes completely round in a way, it just joins the lip, very like what I am seeing in your pictures. What are the bodies like, and do they have mouth fronds? I'm excited!!!!!
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Post by Kevin on Nov 16, 2005 23:45:51 GMT
Are you sure about them possibly being Megalobulimus?
I havent seen them moving around yet, they were out of they're shell earlier, but not moving around....just checked them and they're sticking out of they're shell, but curled up..The ridge on the shell-lip may be from it being worn, im not sure? they're shell-mouth is very strange though? you can probably see it best on the one on the right on the second picture...I thought they would maybe turn out being a fulica subspecies or something? just cause' of the weird shell
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Post by LisaLQ on Nov 16, 2005 23:47:19 GMT
OMG they are so badly worn - what could do that much damage? Did the previous owner scrub them with a brillo pad or something?! I take back what I said, the piccie just made it look like they had naturally pale shells. Poor loves, at least they've got a good home now
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Post by Paul on Nov 16, 2005 23:51:11 GMT
I am being serious, from what you describe and what I can see. The only thing is the body looks like it has a fine texture, but I know next to nothing about South American species.
It could be a growth deformity but there's just something about that picture. Have another look. The shell lip, folds back on its self like a gutter, very much like this: U
It gets full of dirt so try and clean it up to have a look. Check the columella again, if it is not-truncated then it could still be a deformity though usually it is much more obvious.
Ultimately, the body and head is gonna give it away. I'm sorry I've got your hopes up but I had to suggest it, in case it is, and so you know what to check.
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Post by Kevin on Nov 17, 2005 0:09:14 GMT
I just held one of the snails to see if he would come out of his shell, he did, his body is slightly two tone, its darker toward the bottom of his body, he doesnt have the mouth prong's like your Megalobulimus, the others wont come out of they're shell yet.
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