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Post by vallery on Dec 8, 2011 7:45:46 GMT
Hi. I have been searching for months for a book or website or a list to learn of all of the different land snail species there are specifically here in Toronto, Ontario with absolutely no luck. I am interested in names of each species and information on each species and photographs of each species. I have found banded cepaea nemoralis and banded cepaea hortensis, banded white cepaeas which are hard to keep as they loose moisture very quickly and one oxychilus alliarus. If anyone could help me out I would really appreciate it. It is pretty cold here now so hunting around wouldn't work out so well. Thank You
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Post by brunni on Dec 8, 2011 20:10:07 GMT
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Post by vallery on Dec 9, 2011 5:02:45 GMT
Thank You so much Brunni. I have had such a frustrating time trying to find information about snails here in Toronto. Was starting to think no one care about snails here.
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Post by brunni on Dec 9, 2011 8:11:59 GMT
You can bet all species in your area have been very well documented. Apart from checking out libraries, there is probably a complete collection ( wet & dry ) in your local natural history museums and probably some further info available from the Department of Game & Wildlife ( or its equivalent ). Also check if there are any local shell clubs.
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Post by vallery on Dec 14, 2011 23:38:22 GMT
Thank You so much Brunni you have been a great help. Thank you for taking the time to give me all this information. Your great. Thanks I am very excited to learn about my own area.
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Post by vallery on Feb 8, 2012 8:26:21 GMT
Sadly so far I have learned more about the snails in my area under pest control.
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Post by brunni on Feb 8, 2012 12:12:26 GMT
Hi Vallery  ;D Did you check out all those books at your library in the first link ? Must be loads of stuff on land snails from your area, its a question of googling and searching library records. I know you're also interested in marine shells, so check this out : www.britishshellclub.org/pages/articles/oregon/oregon.htmSadly so far I have learned more about the snails in my area under pest control : not sure how it is over there and what this comment means in reference to information being available. Will keep an eye out for your area and post if I find more. Good luck ! |
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Post by brunni on Feb 8, 2012 12:59:36 GMT
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Post by brunni on Feb 8, 2012 13:04:48 GMT
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Post by saki114 on Feb 18, 2012 18:25:21 GMT
Sadly so far I have learned more about the snails in my area under pest control. unfortunately snails are so misunderstood...  |
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Post by rosiesnail2 on Feb 18, 2012 18:30:23 GMT
Yep, I feel so sorry for them Why don't we have world snail awareness day when they give out free snails and you are not allowed to kill them. |
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Post by saki114 on Feb 19, 2012 14:45:00 GMT
well 4 me everyday is snail awareness day! lol   ;D |
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Post by vallery on Mar 31, 2012 10:55:11 GMT
Hi Brunni , I don't know if it is me and I am navigating the site pages wrong on line. Also I didn't get anywhere trying to contact Dave Zanatta. Unfortunately I am House bound due to illness right now so I can't get out to the library or book store my cousin has checked the local library and found nothing. He will check the book store next. Thank you for all your help. Vallery x |
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Post by vallery on Mar 31, 2012 10:56:13 GMT
Thank You for your comments skai and Rosie
valery x
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Post by brunni on Apr 1, 2012 6:21:51 GMT
Hi Vallery ;D ;D ;D I stumbled on this just now, so thought I would pass it along to you : www.unc.edu/~keperez/land%20snail%20webpage.htmlclick on the "Land snails of Canada" but also check out the tabs under Additional Useful Links Wish you speedy recovery - Brunni |
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Post by vallery on Apr 2, 2012 10:41:21 GMT
:)Hi Brunni, That site is excellent, not in Toronto though but British Columbia and Vancouver. My nephews wife is going to Nova Scotia soon to visit her parents I will have to ask her to watch out for a few species I can't get in Toronto but want. Plus another friend lives on Vancouver Island. The site is a great help. Thank You for taking the time to help me out with this I really appreciate it Brunni . Hit the jackpot with this site.So far I have found two different types of shells here but can not get an Identificationyet. Vallery x
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Post by musselman on Sept 3, 2013 16:41:47 GMT
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Post by vallery on Sept 5, 2013 3:51:44 GMT
Thank You so much for your help and the great information musselman. vallery |
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Post by wreckoning on Oct 4, 2013 9:24:48 GMT
Hey Vallery, I am doing a species trade with Cashell, I can do one with you also. I am located a little outside Vancouver BC. This is what I currently have access to - slugs------ native- Ariolimax columbianus - "pacific banana slug" - yellow, green-grey, spotted, albino Prophysaon vanattae - "scarletback taildropper" euro- Limax maximus "leopard slug" Arion rufus "chocolate slug" - brown, black, orange-brown, beige, creamy white Arion fuscus (arion subfuscus) - "dusky arion" - grey, brown, orange Deroceras reticulatum - "grey field slug" snails----- native- Ancotrema sportella - "beaded lancetooth", carnivorous Monadenia fidelis - "pacific sideband", cute red body euro- cepaea nemoralis - "grovesnail" This is what is hopefully being shipped to me from europe: hadra webbi cryptozona bistrialis veronicella sloanei - "pancake slug" and some others, hopefully leatherleaves. I am going to Van Island in a couple weeks, going to be looking especially for yellow-bordered taildroppers and the highly elusive blue-grey taildropper. Also Cashell has me looking for Oregon forestsnails which are native to my area, but I've not yet found any. I will trade for anything you have that I don't. |
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Post by borderpatrol2329 on Jun 21, 2014 19:57:14 GMT
Hi Vallery. Responding quite late on this post. Hope you are still looking for info. There are quite a few species of native Land Snails that can be found in Ontario. My favourites are Allogona Profunda, Webhelix Multilineata, Mesodon Thyroidus, Mesodon Elevatus, Mesodon Mitchellianus, Anguispira Alternata, Mesomphix Cupreus. These are not your only alternatives. There are many large introduced species beside Cepaea Nemoralis. In Michigan I have collected Helix Pomatia, although I will not disclose the location for their protection. In Florida I have collected what has been reported as Otala Lactea, although I dispute that. Unlike normal Otala Lactea, these snails always have ivory white shells (not albino), and mature at only about 60% the size of normal Otala Lactea. The Miami area has an abundance of introduced species, such as Pleurodonte Marginalis, Zachrysia Provisoria, Bulimulus Guadalupensis. All of these are readily easy to keep. Responsible collecting means never overcollecting, a few will do, and never re-releasing any captive held snails back to the wild.
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Post by Cashell on Jun 22, 2014 3:08:19 GMT
Hi Vallery. Responding quite late on this post. Hope you are still looking for info. There are quite a few species of native Land Snails that can be found in Ontario. My favourites are Allogona Profunda, Webhelix Multilineata, Mesodon Thyroidus, Mesodon Elevatus, Mesodon Mitchellianus, Anguispira Alternata, Mesomphix Cupreus. These are not your only alternatives. There are many large introduced species beside Cepaea Nemoralis. In Michigan I have collected Helix Pomatia, although I will not disclose the location for their protection. In Florida I have collected what has been reported as Otala Lactea, although I dispute that. Unlike normal Otala Lactea, these snails always have ivory white shells (not albino), and mature at only about 60% the size of normal Otala Lactea. The Miami area has an abundance of introduced species, such as Pleurodonte Marginalis, Zachrysia Provisoria, Bulimulus Guadalupensis. All of these are readily easy to keep. Responsible collecting means never overcollecting, a few will do, and never re-releasing any captive held snails back to the wild. Yeah, there is actually quite a bit of snails that live in Ontario, but a lot of the "cool ones" are all the way down in Essex County instead of the populous GTA. Also, you have helix pomatia?!?!?!?!?! Sir you have no idea how many Americans and Canadians (myself included) want helix pomatia on this website! It's possibly the most sought after snail here in North America along with a few others. I've read that they live in Michigan's Ingham County and Jackson County, but I don't know where precisely. |
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Post by borderpatrol2329 on Jul 1, 2014 18:50:55 GMT
The story behind this colony of H. Pomatia is that they were being raised for food during the Great Depression by a family that had immigrated from Europe. At some point they either escaped or were released. They have flourished in that vicinity ever since, but oddly never spread very far. They have remained very localized in an urban environment. They had been reported in a large Park and Recreation area. My visit there turned up only shells, none recent. I then found that there had been a bad flood about ten years earlier, which had probably introduced them. I did some deductive reasoning, and reversed the direction of the flood plain a mile or two upstream where this small river crossed an old abandoned railway right-of-way. The surrounding neighbourhood was turn of the century. The old railway right-of-way had become a greenway. It was full of wild sweet pea and wild grape vines. It was an ideal habitat for the H. Pomatia. There was a light rain falling during this visit, and the H. Pomatia were abundant. This was about ten years ago.
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Post by Cashell on Jul 3, 2014 22:52:48 GMT
Interesting story. I wonder if there has been any recent (2010+) sightings?
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Post by borderpatrol2329 on Jul 6, 2014 18:07:34 GMT
At some point in time I would like to go back there. Problem is that I am a Soccer Coach, and my weekends are pretty much filled. Perhaps in late August or early September. Also, the weather needs to be rainy. It is about a 2 1/2 hour drive. Last Winter may have really been hard on them, however, since they have been there for over 80 years, they are survivors. I have a clutch of the Otala Lactea hatching out. These are the ones from the West Coast of Florida. I am amxious to see if they also maintain the snow white shells, like the parents. The parents shells are also somewhat thinner and smaller than typical Otala Lactea. This may be due to the white sands that are predominent in the area. If it it strictly due to habitat then the F-1 gemeration will revert to normal Otala Lactea. If it is genetic, then the colour will hold true with the parents, and these will be a true distinct sub-species of Otala Lactea. Otala Lactea Floridensis? That would be interesting, as instead of an invasive species, they would be required to be re-classified as a species of special interest, and perhaps even an threatened (protected) species. It would be the only place on Earth where this sub-species is located. So far the hatchings are snow white, but it is too soon to tell.
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Post by Cashell on Jul 7, 2014 2:08:33 GMT
Wow, Google tells me that I'm 5 hours away from the rumored Jackson MI! Otala Lactea has never really been a species of interest to me, but the white otala lacteas you're describing do sound pretty cool.
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