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Post by vallery on Jul 25, 2012 20:23:44 GMT
Hi everyone  , I found these two little snails in my outdoor snail sanctuary I was wondering if anyone knows what type of snail they might be. Thank You Vallery. I will attach one more picture to help with identification. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jul 25, 2012 20:24:59 GMT
2nd photo. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jul 26, 2012 20:46:15 GMT
Here is a close up of one of the odd looking snails I found in my outdoor Snail Sanctuary. I hope someone will help me to Identify it. Thank you vallery Attachments:
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Post by pinkunicorn on Jul 26, 2012 22:22:12 GMT
They look pretty small. How big are they?
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Post by vallery on Jul 26, 2012 22:29:29 GMT
Hi pinkunicorn , On the left of this picture is an adult cepaea and above it a baby cepaea then on the right top is what looks like a undeveloped cepaea which I found in the outdoor snail sanctuary and just below him is one of the weird looking snails I found. so they are pretty small. vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jul 28, 2012 0:15:31 GMT
Hi everyone I have searched and searched images to try to find out what type of little snails these are but nothing what so ever. Has anyone viewing this thread had any luck identifying them. vallery |
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Post by tsrebel on Jul 28, 2012 16:58:39 GMT
They look like Cepaeas with damages. Like if they got their shell smashed, but managed to repear it. And/or some genetic irregularity. That said, I have no knowledge about Canadian snails, so I may very well be wrong.
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Post by vallery on Jul 28, 2012 17:59:52 GMT
Hi Tsrebel , Thank you. I was thinking the same thing myself, but the two are so similar it is odd. They both have such a similar shape and one dark band down the back center of their shells and the a very light brown band at the side where the whorl begins. I have someone coming today with a better camera that is going to take pictures of all my pets so I will be able to post much better shots of the two. I plan to release them back into my back yard snail sanctuary because I don't know if keeping them is good for them. In the photo with the four snails I already posted the two on the right are my pet cepaeas and the ones on the right of the picture the top one is definitely a undeveloped or deformed cepaea I found and the one below is one of the two weird snails. I am also going to let the undeveloped or deformed cepaea go I think he would be better off back where I found him as well. vallery |
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Post by tsrebel on Jul 28, 2012 19:52:10 GMT
The fact that their shape look so similar makes me believe it may be a genetic mutation.
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Post by vallery on Jul 29, 2012 2:15:01 GMT
Hi Tsrebel , Here are a few more photos courtesy of Jose Aranaz. Much better then the ones I tried taking. vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jul 29, 2012 2:16:28 GMT
2nd picture by Jose A. they also both have a dark band down the center of their shell. And their whorls don't come out like the cepaeas it is almost indented and a slightly bluish center. which is difficult to spot. Attachments:
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Post by pinkunicorn on Jul 29, 2012 2:22:56 GMT
These has quite a short tail. How long do Cepaeas have? Also the shell tilt is curious.
I'm going to think on this and do some research. You piqued my interest.
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Post by vallery on Jul 29, 2012 2:29:02 GMT
Hi pinkunicorn , Thank you I would really appreciate your help. I have tried to crop Jose's pictures to see if I can show a more close up view. vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Jul 29, 2012 2:30:47 GMT
Hopefully you can see them a little closer. I will have to choose a good back view that Jose A. took. vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Aug 5, 2012 0:33:35 GMT
Hi , Still have no Idea of what species these little guys could be. Vallery |
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Post by shaydeesnail on Aug 13, 2012 11:52:42 GMT
They certainly are strange! Have you kept them? I really hope you find out what they are someday!
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Post by brunni on Aug 13, 2012 13:56:08 GMT
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 1:34:00 GMT
Hi shaydee , Yes I did keep them and found two little baby ones as well and have them too. still no identification. Thank You Brunni , I still can't find anything to identify these snails. I found 2 more very small babies. The first ones I found have grown about two times the size they were when I found them. Here are some recent photos just taken of one of the first ones I found. vallery Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 1:34:52 GMT
a little over exposed. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 1:36:49 GMT
Two dark bands on the left hand side. Two light bands on the right hand side. All of these snails have identical markings. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 1:38:45 GMT
I am not sure if it is noticeable in the picture but the center of the swirl is a little blue. vallery Attachments:
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Post by PennyFarthing on Aug 27, 2012 7:52:44 GMT
Could they be a cross between the hortensis and nemoralis varieties, Vallery? Just a thought. The colouring and shell shape looks a bit like both varieties to me, but perhaps it's nothing of the sort.
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Post by gunshotglitter on Aug 27, 2012 15:38:11 GMT
Could they be a cross between the hortensis and nemoralis varieties, Vallery? Just a thought. The colouring and shell shape looks a bit like both varieties to me, but perhaps it's nothing of the sort. As far as I know, hortensis and nemoralis can't breed because their darts have different shapes or something like that.  |
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 19:18:25 GMT
Hi penny , Thank you. I was thinking they must be some sort of cross between c hortensis or c nemoralis and another type of snail, not sure if that can happen. I do know there can definitely be mutations of species. I am baffled. And finding two more little wee babies the same makes me wonder if it is an entirely different species on it's own of some sort. I have an outdoor wild cepaea hortensis and cepaea nemoralis open snailarium. I found all them about 2 feet away from that near my compost pile but not in the compost pile but sliding on garden bricks after a rain. vallery |
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 21:14:20 GMT
Hi everyone , Here are some pictures I just took of one the unidentified snails in comparision to one of my adult pet cepaea hortensis who is being a little shy today as you will see. vallery Attachments:
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