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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 21:15:20 GMT
Ist one was front view. This photo is a back view. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 21:16:10 GMT
Another front view. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 21:17:41 GMT
back sliding view. As you can see c hortensis is being a little shy. Notice the tilt on the unidentified snail. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Aug 27, 2012 21:20:41 GMT
Front sliding view. c hortensis still being shy Thank you everyone for trying to help me identify these snails. I really appreciate it. I am hoping to get some sort of identification so I can look after them correctly. So more help would really be appreciated. vallery Attachments:
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Post by brunni on Aug 28, 2012 16:53:20 GMT
Hi Vellery, thanks your PM. ;D ;D Your strange snail doesn't look like a Cepaea : depressed spire, bluish color on apex, smaller size, different type of pattern, light colored animal, etc. If it wasn't for the fact that you found more than one of them, I could say it may be a deformed Cepaea ( damaged in the early whorls ). It seems in your latest post there are signs that the lip is thickening ? Did you ever check if it could be a heath snail ( Helicella, Xerolenta, Cernuella ) ? See molluscs.at/gastropoda/terrestrial.html?/gastropoda/terrestrial/terrestrial_snails_europe.html
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Post by shaydeesnail on Aug 28, 2012 23:10:57 GMT
Wow, this looks like a good match! Finally! I just did a search for "heath snail" because we have a snail over here in the UK that we call the heath snail, I didn't think that it lived in Canada. But this snail in Brunni's picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerolenta_obvia) does apparently live in Canada! I think you might be onto something! There seems to be a couple of snails known as heath snails.
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Post by vallery on Aug 29, 2012 4:06:15 GMT
;D brunni ;D,
Thank You so much. You did it! I looked into the heath snail.
It has been introduced to Ontario.
Aside from photos that gave a great identification there were a lot of things I found out after searching.
They live near dry grassy areas, sand hills and I live on top of a large hill which is a very dry grassy hill. Also sandy as I live on Lake Ontario.
They live near lime stone and there are a lot of limestone cliffs in this area.
Also live on grape vines and we have a large grape vine in our yard.
This is so excellent! Thank You so much. Now I can learn to take care of them properly which was a big concern.
This is so great! I am so happy! Thank you so much brunni ;D ;D vallery ;D
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Post by brunni on Aug 29, 2012 19:26:45 GMT
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Post by vallery on Aug 29, 2012 21:58:07 GMT
Hi brunni Hi shaydee So far I have searched and found xerolanta obvia and helicella itala. Some differences in the two I read helicella itala has a larger umbilicus and a narrower last whorl desending sharply before the aperture. I have nothing to physically compare mine with which makes that difficult. The articles that I read of them being spotted in the states and Ontario have been the xerolanta obvia so far. vallery
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Post by brunni on Sept 20, 2012 9:28:05 GMT
How are these snails doing now ? Can we get a photo update ?
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Post by vallery on Oct 4, 2012 14:53:01 GMT
Hi Brunni Sorry for the late reply. I will take some pictures today. I lost one of the larger heaths of the first two I found but the other one has grown a lot I have found a couple wee babies but that's all I have looked for more but no luck. I have noticed the heaths are not as active as the cepaeas or the oxy's or P. Isabella's. I am still trying to work out a better environment for them in their tank I have been keeping them separate from the cepaeas and other snails in a smaller tank also. vallery
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Post by vallery on Oct 5, 2012 19:47:07 GMT
Tried to get a few updated pictures. They didn't turn out so well but here is a picture of one of the first two snails ( lost the other) I found in comparison to my fingers like a picture on this post when I first got them to show how much it has grown. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Oct 5, 2012 19:48:14 GMT
And here is an update of one of the first I found and the two wee babies. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Oct 16, 2012 17:28:54 GMT
Hi Everyone , Still trying to find out the best way to care for the heath snails that I found. Environment and food. If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. vallery
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Post by gunshotglitter on Oct 16, 2012 19:36:12 GMT
I have a few Cernuellas and like yours, they are 'dry snails'. I keep mine in a dry tank, the substrate is a mix of sand and potting soil, they have some branches and dry hay. I only spray them once in a week, they really don't like humid environment. Now, i'm not sure what they eat, I've had them since june and they seem to eat only seeds and maybe dry leaves/grass but I'm not sure. I put a leaf of lettuce or cucumber in once in a while, they never touched it.
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Post by vallery on Oct 16, 2012 19:48:37 GMT
Thank You gunshotglitter , I have also tried lettuce and cucumber and other veggies but they won't touch it. They aren't active at all unless I give the tank a misting, they just stick to the side or top of the tank and go right into their shells, I worry about that afraid they will dry out and die. Do yours do that? vallery
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Post by gunshotglitter on Oct 16, 2012 21:00:06 GMT
Thank You gunshotglitter , I have also tried lettuce and cucumber and other veggies but they won't touch it. They aren't active at all unless I give the tank a misting, they just stick to the side or top of the tank and go right into their shells, I worry about that afraid they will dry out and die. Do yours do that? vallery I've found mine on a branch in a town park, it was 37°C and very dry. There were hundreds of them, so I just picked a few and put them in my pocket thinking they would be already dead.. But they came out as soon as I put them in their temporary tank. So I'm pretty sure they can survive very rough dry weather. Mine are not active at all during the day, I've seen them sliming around in the middle of the night a few times though. They are very small too so their tank just looks sad and empty most of the time lol Also, the first group of Cernuellas all died after being in a 'normal' moist tank for two weeks
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Post by vallery on Oct 16, 2012 23:05:48 GMT
Thank You gunshotglitter , I will definitely check in the middle of the night to see what they are up to. vallery
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Post by vallery on Jan 16, 2013 3:55:09 GMT
Update photo of a few of my heath snails. Attachments:
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Post by vallery on Sept 11, 2013 2:51:51 GMT
Hi Cashell , Like I was saying the photos were probably gone since the format changed on the forum and they have. Sorry about that. But there are a few photos that brunni posted on here you can look at. vallery
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