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Post by etana on Jun 18, 2015 11:32:58 GMT
Some time ago I noticed there were a couple very pale shelled young snails in my local species tank. First I thought they were Cepaea, but as they grew I saw they have no stripes and aren't really yellow anyway. None of my Arianta are quite that light shelled.
I will post photos once I am able to get ones that are any good (it's very hard to get them to look realistic) but does it sound plausible as an idea that I have albino shelled Arianta? Or can the weird shells be a result of a deficiency? There's always cuttlebone in the tank and it gets rasped, and I make sure to offer meat/egg-based protein snacks and various veg, and the occasional pumpkin seed.
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Post by Liguus on Jun 18, 2015 16:10:45 GMT
It does sound like it may be a rare phenotype of arianta. What color is the body? I'm sure as time goes on it will become more clear as to what they are.
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Post by etana on Jun 18, 2015 16:30:42 GMT
Their bodies are white-grey, with the grey in the face and back, getting lighter towards the edge of the foot. I'm attempting once again to take a pic right now, will post if it turns out at all.
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Post by etana on Jun 18, 2015 16:43:22 GMT
Ohhh yes finally! This looks right!  Yes, I'm enjoying the cute little sound of a little snailie rasping at a strip of sweet potato as I type this.  The smaller one is not much behind in growth and has exactly the same colours. This bigger one in the pic is starting to show the white spot on his cheek so he'll be able to have babies soon. It'll be interesting to see if they too get this strange shell. |
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Post by wolf on Jun 18, 2015 18:16:11 GMT
Hi etana,
I agree with HelixPomatia: it might well be some form of Arianta arbustorum. In adult status the umbilicus should not be completely closed. There are several forms of A. arbustorum with only faint markings or no markings at all (see A. arbustorum f. albina, f. flavescens, f. baylei, f. cincta and so on).
Kind regards: wolf
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Post by astana on Jun 18, 2015 18:39:23 GMT
Regardless if that's a rare phenotype of snail or not, that's one beautiful guy.
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Post by astana on Jun 18, 2015 19:42:51 GMT
Ohhh yes finally! This looks right! Yes, I'm enjoying the cute little sound of a little snailie rasping at a strip of sweet potato as I type this. The smaller one is not much behind in growth and has exactly the same colours. This bigger one in the pic is starting to show the white spot on his cheek so he'll be able to have babies soon. It'll be interesting to see if they too get this strange shell. Now that I take a good look at it, this snail looks less like an Arianta but more like an Asian tramp snail. |
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Post by etana on Jun 18, 2015 20:33:48 GMT
Ohhh yes finally! This looks right! (pic removed) Yes, I'm enjoying the cute little sound of a little snailie rasping at a strip of sweet potato as I type this. The smaller one is not much behind in growth and has exactly the same colours. This bigger one in the pic is starting to show the white spot on his cheek so he'll be able to have babies soon. It'll be interesting to see if they too get this strange shell. Now that I take a good look at it, this snail looks less like an Arianta but more like an Asian tramp snail. That's funny!  However, he was born in my tank, and the adults that were collected from outside were definitely all Arianta and Cepaea with normal coloured shells and feet. So he has to be either, he just has weird genes somehow! I do think he's Arianta though, the way he moves seems to be very similar to that of Twirly Eyes (including the, erm, twirling), and Twirly has a very pale foot with a beautiful cherrywood coloured shell. Neither of Twirly's parents were pale at all so it's all quite strange. Wolf, thanks for your comment too, that's interesting that the Arianta forms are recognised like that. I returned him and his little bro to the tank but I'll see about their umbilicus at some point. |
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Post by Cashell on Jun 20, 2015 2:02:22 GMT
Cool! I've never seen an Arianta with such colours.
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Post by Zorst on Jun 25, 2015 9:52:58 GMT
Not how I missed this post. I have captive born Arianta's as you know Etana. I also have a few of these guys in the captive bred lot. I just figured that they were just another color strain.
Zorst
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Post by etana on Jul 16, 2015 6:37:01 GMT
The biggest one of these has matured, his shell thickened, and he looks exactly like the equivalent of a A. fulica rodatzi in Arianta world with his pale yellow shell. I just wonder who the heck carried the secret albino shell genes.
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Post by Evan on Jul 16, 2015 12:03:07 GMT
The biggest one of these has matured, his shell thickened, and he looks exactly like the equivalent of a A. fulica rodatzi in Arianta world with his pale yellow shell. I just wonder who the heck carried the secret albino shell genes. That is so neat! I really like those. |
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However, he was born in my tank, and the adults that were collected from outside were definitely all Arianta and Cepaea with normal coloured shells and feet. So he has to be either, he just has weird genes somehow! 
