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Post by helptoall on May 15, 2016 20:33:46 GMT
i read that cabbage is a good source for calcium
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Post by etana on May 15, 2016 21:29:50 GMT
Oxalates and citric acids must be avoided with snails, but I don't think the above mentioned foods contain those? There are some long threads here with discussion about what's safe, I think the best one is titled "what to feed/not to feed your snails" - sorry I can't do links on my phone. Egg yolk (boiled/microwaved with no added seasoning) will be a good thing to offer max once a week as well, for lots of energy and vitamin D. Just a little bit will do (no more than the volume of your fingertip at first), he'll be full fast. High quality fish flakes indeed work well too, but it's a lot to invest if you're only helping one snail and don't have other uses for it. How is his shell growth now?
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Post by yoruni on May 16, 2016 4:30:18 GMT
I was using tabele created by snail owners here in Poland - there is an opinion here that's is better to do not feed it to snails because it have high lvl of oxalates, but I saw also other tabel where I found that it's not that high to complete removing it from menu. But I would be more careful with snail regenerating its shell and just for his safe avoid it till that process ends. Balancing on what have or not bad lvl of oxalates is pretty hard when it comes to snails :< Yes, I was reading it yesterday a bit, but I not all yet. I need to find time for proper reading
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Post by helptoall on May 16, 2016 17:03:37 GMT
the shell is continue to growing its faster than i thought it will be, i saw in two "what to feed" lists that cabbage ids ok ,in the forum and in another site
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Post by helptoall on May 16, 2016 22:51:03 GMT
the box is smelling.. there are about five "poops" in it now,should i leave it like this or should i clean the older ones?,also hes last poop came out mostly white but some of it was black,but there is no black food in the box,it this ok?
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Post by etana on May 17, 2016 8:20:49 GMT
You can clean up the stinky ones, but leave in a new poop so he gets to keep his bacteria. When the snail has substrate you can pick up visible poops whenever they bug you (unless the snail is in the middle of eating one) and just not change the substrate. It's nicer, and less smelly.
The black could be from him smoothing out bad shell and biting off bits of it, that comes to mind at least. Also snails have a digestive cycle that's a bit different on different days, like some days the poops seem stickier and slimier, it's normal.
Is the newly grown shell getting firmer as it gets older, with just a couple mm of fragile shell at the very new edge?
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Post by helptoall on May 17, 2016 10:01:14 GMT
i think so the older new shell is thicker then the new
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Post by helptoall on May 17, 2016 11:28:04 GMT
i think my snail is starting to astivate,but the box is very humid,how it looks like when he start to do that? and could it be hes doing it although its not dry?
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Post by etana on May 17, 2016 12:43:05 GMT
What exactly is he doing? If he's sticking to a wall or lid with dried slime, that's normal, he's just sleeping tightly. Aestivating snails form a white seal at the opening of the shell. From the way he grows his shell, eats and poops, it sounds like your snail is in alright basic health so I don't think it's a problem even if he actually aestivates for a bit.
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Post by lindz on May 17, 2016 14:46:03 GMT
Here girl is repairing snail shell, it's water snail but it can work on land snail also. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1jICKMoilQHe cannot use that hole and he may die if it won't be fixed. After that super snail bandage, keep him in small box (so he wont move too much and make more injuries to shell) and feed him well and give a lot of sepia. Do not fill box with soil - better is to keep him on paper towel. This is how far I know. Maybe someone will have better tips but I hope I helped a bit and snail will be fine. Just take a good care of him. Good Luck Thanks for this info.! I just found a young land snail on the sidewalk this morning and it had a crack/small hole in the new portion of shell it has recently grown. I'm wondering if it should be repaired, or just let it repair on it's own, since it is not a spot on the body of the snail? It feels like very new shell, so I'm hoping it will heal!
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Post by lindz on May 17, 2016 14:47:11 GMT
i read that cabbage is a good source for calcium My snails really like calcium carbonate. I have a cuttlefish bone in the tank for them as well, but the calcium carbonate is really easy for them to eat - especially with a little water. They poop out what they don't use. How is your snail friend doing?
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Post by yoruni on May 17, 2016 16:02:27 GMT
Here girl is repairing snail shell, it's water snail but it can work on land snail also. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1jICKMoilQHe cannot use that hole and he may die if it won't be fixed. After that super snail bandage, keep him in small box (so he wont move too much and make more injuries to shell) and feed him well and give a lot of sepia. Do not fill box with soil - better is to keep him on paper towel. This is how far I know. Maybe someone will have better tips but I hope I helped a bit and snail will be fine. Just take a good care of him. Good Luck Thanks for this info.! I just found a young land snail on the sidewalk this morning and it had a crack/small hole in the new portion of shell it has recently grown. I'm wondering if it should be repaired, or just let it repair on it's own, since it is not a spot on the body of the snail? It feels like very new shell, so I'm hoping it will heal! I hoping it will repair >;0 But I think maybe it's better to take him home, in nature they may not have so easy to repair it all by himself, mostly if there is hole and you can see body - it may be dangerous for him. Maybe you will be able to do something like that girl did, but you should be careful if it was new shell it easy break :<
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Post by helptoall on May 18, 2016 18:28:26 GMT
I think you should consider carefully wether to repair it.taking him home and giving him optimal conditions sons like a good idea,and i think its less risky,but you should check ,because i dont know all the advatages of repairing
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Post by helptoall on May 18, 2016 18:31:36 GMT
about the aestivation it looked like hes forming a seal,but im not sure ,i woke him up when it wasent complete.since the opening of his shell now has a weired shape its kinda difficukt to say wether he was retract completly
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Post by etana on May 19, 2016 4:52:39 GMT
Has he eaten food of calcium again since, and does he look as fat as before, helptoall?
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Post by etana on May 19, 2016 4:55:17 GMT
Here girl is repairing snail shell, it's water snail but it can work on land snail also. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1jICKMoilQHe cannot use that hole and he may die if it won't be fixed. After that super snail bandage, keep him in small box (so he wont move too much and make more injuries to shell) and feed him well and give a lot of sepia. Do not fill box with soil - better is to keep him on paper towel. This is how far I know. Maybe someone will have better tips but I hope I helped a bit and snail will be fine. Just take a good care of him. Good Luck Thanks for this info.! I just found a young land snail on the sidewalk this morning and it had a crack/small hole in the new portion of shell it has recently grown. I'm wondering if it should be repaired, or just let it repair on it's own, since it is not a spot on the body of the snail? It feels like very new shell, so I'm hoping it will heal! Hi, A picture or drawing would be helpful, but snails are very good at repairing their growing edges if they are safe and have access to calcium. You don't need to assist the repair in most cases.
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Post by lindz on May 19, 2016 11:54:12 GMT
Thanks for this info.! I just found a young land snail on the sidewalk this morning and it had a crack/small hole in the new portion of shell it has recently grown. I'm wondering if it should be repaired, or just let it repair on it's own, since it is not a spot on the body of the snail? It feels like very new shell, so I'm hoping it will heal! Hi, A picture or drawing would be helpful, but snails are very good at repairing their growing edges if they are safe and have access to calcium. You don't need to assist the repair in most cases. Hi! I posted a photo to the thread I created. You can see it here: www.flickr.com/photos/lindsaycomer/27073362145/in/dateposted/Little snail is doing well now. I noticed that yesterday it kept trying to emerge through the hold in the shell, so I held my finger over it to force it out the actual opening. The snail seems to have realized it wasn't ready for all it's new shell (it had trouble carrying it), and yesterday evening, it broke off and the snail had sealed a new lip that was a more appropriate size - right around where the whole was. So I think it is fine, but I put some cuttlefish bone in its tank for it so it will keep building strength. The new ones are so fragile when you find them after winter. Thank you for your input!!
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Post by helptoall on May 20, 2016 1:19:15 GMT
Hi,he is ok,eating ,poopoing and calciuming,but iv noticed to some weired behaviors,it looks like hes trying sometimes to crawl on himself or that he is streching himslef like hes trying to bristle,kinda like a cat.someone have ideas what its about?
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Post by helptoall on May 20, 2016 1:19:28 GMT
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Post by etana on May 20, 2016 10:19:32 GMT
Very good I think the "crawling on himself" is him checking his shell is ok and doing maintenance (cleaning, smoothing) in other places than the most broken part. The stretching, that sounds perfectly normal as well. See what he does if you mist him with a clean misting bottle. I think if you have a clean plastic flowerpot or similarly shaped thing (clean, and not rock hard, no ceramic), you can place it in his box and see him go sleep in it and do stretchy dances on top of it.
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Post by helptoall on May 21, 2016 21:30:20 GMT
Im worried a bit,today there were white haires on the cabbage and after i took it out i put a few pieces of peach and now the peach is becoming whitey,it looks like the rotting process is now much faster which indicates there are alot of germs in the box,should i do an overall cleaning? also the cuttle bone looks realy bad all yellowish and icky, i broke it in order to make the inner fresh part accesible ,could this "rotting" process make the snail decline the cuttlebone?
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Post by helptoall on May 23, 2016 9:02:36 GMT
There are a few weired signs iv been noticing latley,wanted to hear your opinion.It looks like the sanil has some "tiks" in his antlers and eyes,hes wondering around ,then all of a sudden one of his antlers get retracked for no reason.another thing is that he has some lighter small patches on his skin,abuot three,dont know if they were before but i just noticed them now,what do you think?
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Post by HazelSnail on May 23, 2016 15:27:46 GMT
In response to your previous post, I would wipe down the box. Not a full cleaning or anything, just enough to hopefully decrease that fast mold growth you're seeing. The lighter patches could be healed injuries, but I'm not sure on the eye stalk behavior.
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Post by helptoall on May 23, 2016 23:45:02 GMT
thats what i did.today he started aestivating for sure,any recomandation on what to do? should i let him do it? does his shell continuing to grow during it? how long should it normally take and if its taking too long should i wake him up? once again the tank is humid and misty all the time.and if anyone has ideas about the weired eye movment.TY all for your help!
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Post by etana on May 24, 2016 6:20:27 GMT
Let him sleep a few days if he wants to, he won't grow during the sleep but it probably helps him adjust.
Snails do a lot of weird stuff with their eye stalks. Unless it's combined with an unhappy face and retraction into his shell (in which case something might be biting him), it's okay.
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