Please help injured snail!

[helptoall]

i found a dorment snail who was on a place which is dangerous for him,so i tried to move him and i broke his shell,and a big piece fell of. i took it and put it back to its place,but the snail is tryin to come out from that hole instead of the normal hole. i poored alot of water on him in order to melt the paper like crust on his opnening and i took him home,hes also sliming and bubling,how can i help him? is it righ to try to glue the piece? should i let him come out from thbroken hole and let the piece fall? when i broke it the snail was doorment and glued to the wall and inside the shell i saw that his retracked deeper the where the brake accoured, so maybe he still can live like this?

[yoruni]

Here girl is repairing snail shell, it's water snail but it can work on land snail also.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1jICKMoilQ

He cannot use that hole and he may die if it won't be fixed. After that super snail bandage, keep him in small box (so he wont move too much and make more injuries to shell) and feed him well and give a lot of sepia. Do not fill box with soil - better is to keep him on paper towel.

This is how far I know. Maybe someone will have better tips but I hope I helped a bit and snail will be fine. Just take a good care of him. Good Luck

[helptoall]

hes continueing to move the pisce and get out from that hole,and ,i dont how, but he broke another piece and now the holes are connected. the snail is still able to retract completley

[helptoall]

[etana]

I've now read this and your other thread. It's a little bit hard to see what's going on in the last pics but is a part of the biggest whorl breaking off? You said in the other thread that the snail is still able to retract, so I think there is hope for him. Is there still a hole or is the rest of the shell intact now?

I'd keep him, and give him a source of calcium and a varied diet. He might grow the shell back.

[helptoall]

 at first it looked like the right picture and then the snail broke the rest of the lip like in the left picture,the picture in the bottom shows it from the other side,i read that you can use egg shells skin and then glue back the pieces of the shell, i got most of the broken piece'and wanted to ask if you think i should try or shoul i just wait and let him fix it himself? also about his behavior ,all he hes doing is climbing to the lid upside down and hanging there, i put inside the box carrots cucumber apple,peach and pair and egg shels pieces for calcuim but he dosent seems to care,i tried to put him near them and again all he does is to climnb to the lid

[HazelSnail]

Looks like a tricky spot to "bandage", as plaster/glue could easily get on the body, so you'd definitely have to use mesh or something, like you said. It reminds me of how one of my zachrysia porsovia ate away at it's shell in a similar manner (attempting to get at mites), and started to come out of it's shell through the new opening. If I were you, I would try to repair it, especially since you have the pieces. What eventually happened with my porsovia is that despite the fact that the shell was healing slowly, it's body got so turned around it almost crawled backwards. Not long after, I found the poor little guy had died, twisted in his shell at an odd angle (fortunately, this was only one of two casualties from the mites). I hope that this snail doesn't meet the same fate, and I wish you luck!

Also, the bubbling you mentioned is likely from stress, I have noticed that snails (and sometimes slugs) produce bubbles when they feel threatened or stressed.

[helptoall]

what about his behavior? its very strange.all he wants is to be on the lid upside down ,ahen im putting him back on the bottom he crawls again and than just sits there

[helptoall]

Ok right now i checked up on him and he was asleep,then he woke up and i think that he started to eat his shell! after a few small bites i gave him a small piece of peach and he ate it! for the first time! another thing that i noticed is that ther is now a weired membrane near the shell edges that is squishy but has a shell patters and shape,you think its the healing process?and why do you think he started to eat his shell?

[HazelSnail]

Snails will sometimes smooth out rough edges or spots that irritate them on their shells, he was probably just doing this. And that definitely sounds like some healing!

[etana]

He probably didn't eat earlier because he was in shock. Also snails hang upside down a lot, it's perfectly normal. I think they feel safe that way because in the nature they go under everything to hide from dangers.

It sounds very good that he ate food, is working on the shell with his mouth (it's likely that it was this and not really eating), and grew a bit of it. New snail shell tends to be fragile, avoid touching it if you can. He has a little calcium reserve for emergencies but he's going to need an outside source, and eggshells aren't the best. Would you be able to get him a cuttlefish bone or limestone flour?

Cuttlefish bones are sold in pet stores for birds and reptiles, if they're not familiar with snails. Just get stuff that has no colouring or other additives. Limestone flour is sold for horses. Of course keep offering the eggshell if there is nothing else, it's better than nothing. There are calcium-high vegetables too such as endive (someone could help me out a bit, what else are there?).

I probably said the calcium advice last time as well, but I repeat it also for any lurkers who didn't see the last thread, amd because it's crucial for snails.

[helptoall]

TY! im trying to find a pet store who has cuttlebone,ill be happy for more reach in calcium foods you know about

[yoruni]

I came here to check on snail progress and I see you are doing well
I do agree with Etena, egg shells sadly are not the best but cuttlefish is great, you can put it in box or even crush some part of it and turn in dust to put on food. I am glad to see new shell is growing

[helptoall]

I got cuttlebone, but i kinda worry,it containes 5% salt and 25% calcium,i asked about additives and they told me its addiditive free,but is the minerals ok? the salt isnt dangerous?

[helptoall]

and should i wash or boil it befor using?

[helptoall]

a weired long musterd-blackiesh thing appered today in the box,is this his poop? its very long about 3/4 than the snail lenght when hes extract,and from where do snails poop? cuz i think it came out from near his mouth,is this ok?

[yoruni]

I believe that small procent of it wont be harmful, at last everything eatable got salt in it so of it's nit higher then 5% then I think it's ok. No, you don't need to boil it or wash it. Just put in box, you can also wipe it a bit on food


Well, looks like a nice poop
it goes from hole under shell but when they sit still wiyh their head near shell it looks a bit like that, also snails like to keep it under their foot and leave it behind after they move

[etana]

Congrats, a long poop means his gut is functioning right. The next poop will be the colour of what you've fed him, could be yellow, orange, green etc.

[helptoall]

TY the poop right now is suck to his shell on the upper part,i dont know how it got there,shoul i clen it?

[etana]

He may have pooped when hanging upside down or something, also snails dig around a lot and get stuff on themselves. There's no rush to take it off, snails benefit from their own poop, especially if so far he has no substrate.

A pet store could sell you a coir block. It may be sold as brand name "exo Terra plantation soil". You add water to it so it expands and becomes soil-like - soft, nice, moist and pretty much perfect for snails.

[helptoall]

ok ,now there is another snail in the same place i found this one, and he is in his summer sleep, i want to move it so ithought ill spray him with water untill the paper crust will dissolve and then ill move him ,i just want to make sure that its ok for him this way,will he be able to create another crust right away? how many times can snail create this crust? 
and today this appeared..it looks very diffrent from the last time he pooped,its much thinner and he was sleeping on it when i found him,could it be white because he ate alot from the cuttlebone yesterday?

[etana]

Yes it's ok to move that other snail the way you described if the place is hazardous. The paper-like crust is made out of a little bit of calcium. The snail will make a new one with no problems if he wants to.

You're right, the poop is white because he ate cuttlebone. It's perfectly good and normal for that to happen.

Hey, sweet potato is really great snail food. You can buy a small one, wash and partially peel it, and take a slice or two of it with a peeling knife or cheese cutter. Since the snail is showing appetite, he should find it irresistible.

What is in his box right now?

[helptoall]

cuttlebone,poop ,cabbage ,apple and lettuce,and water

[etana]

Good. I pm'd you about the substrate.

[yoruni]

Hmm.... Well I never was great at biochem but won't lettuce and cabbage actually interfere with the absorption of calcium? Maybe as long shell regens is better to keep it on apple, zucchini and some fish-flakes (once per 4-5 days)?