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Post by Liguus on Nov 17, 2019 21:56:03 GMT
The existing portion is permanently disfigured however the subsequent growth can return to normal if diet is corrected.
Protein: things mentioned in this thread already are good sources. Eggs, bloodworms, dog treats, fish flakes/pellets.. I'm sure there are others but personally I just bought a variety of dog treats that I use.
They should get a mix of fruit and veg consistently. You can keep feeding lettuce, but main items I would include are sweet potato, bell pepper, mushroom, apples, carrots ... lots of other fruits and vegetables are also acceptable. There is a safe foods list on this website somewhere....
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Post by Liguus on Nov 17, 2019 21:49:12 GMT
Chinese mystery snail is actually a nickname for the Japanese trapdoors snail which is nowhere near related to to the mystery snail or Apple snail. I am not familiar with chinese mystery snail being a nickname for Japanese trapdoor snails...Do you mean people confuse the two as well? They are very similar looking so I would not doubt it. They are two different species, C. chinensis and C. japonica. A while ago I used to work at a nature preserve and a guy brought in a shell for Identification. He would not accept my ID of Chinese mystery snail because he found the shell on the banks not in the river. It was no doubt a Chinese M snail but my explanation of possible predation by birds or raccoon wasn't acceptable to him so he let me know he would call some professionals.
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Post by Liguus on Nov 15, 2019 0:49:38 GMT
If those are the only things you are feeding then that's the problem. They need a more varied diet and some have suggested not to feed spinach at all since the oxalates it contains can interfere with calcium absorption. If they are fed a wider variety of fruits, veg, soaked oats and soaked bird food, dog biscuits, egg, or mealworms/bloodworms, and have a cuttlebone everything should sort itself out.
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Post by Liguus on Nov 15, 2019 0:46:50 GMT
To me it looks like regular fulica, although as a USA resident my experience is limited to a few pictures I've seen as I've never had a need to become really "hardcore" in GALS ID. The body has brown coloration though, and this would not be present in an albino jade nor jadatzi.
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Post by Liguus on Nov 15, 2019 0:41:04 GMT
To add to the confusion Chinese Mystery snails are also sometimes referred to as just "mystery snails". Ideally everyone would just stop using common names and refer to animals only by the binomial nomenclature and properly labeled if sold, but that is just one of my pipe dreams.
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Post by Liguus on Nov 14, 2019 23:01:41 GMT
Unfortunately, as wolf mentioned species level ID with north american land snails is very hard without measurements and good pictures of the shell structure.
I can make an educated guess on most of them though. The last one is Haplotrema, likely H. concavum since this is the only species that lives in your range if I remember correctly. Pic #1 make me think Patera sp. but without seeing the aperture I can't say for sure... it may be Inflectarius species or possibly Triodopsis as well. #2 might be Mesomphix like wolf said, although it may also be another Haplotrema concavum.
pics 3&4 may be a Discus species. The slug looks like a mantleslug, Philomycus sp. likely P. carolinensis
pic 6 looks like Ventridens sp.
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Post by Liguus on Nov 6, 2019 17:09:24 GMT
oof. Too bad I did not see this before. One classic trick is to soak the food in beer. The fermenting smell attracts them. For those who are underage you can achieve a similar effect by activating some yeast in sugar water and soaking the food in that for a while.
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Post by Liguus on Nov 4, 2019 14:58:24 GMT
What is your protein source? what % protein does it contain and how often do you feed it?
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Post by Liguus on Oct 5, 2019 19:37:10 GMT
I have seen springtails congregate on the surface of water before in water dishes. They mentioned that their pests "skip around on the surface" which made me think that it was springtails. Neither of us can say anything for sure without a picture, but the springtails are definitely a possibility.
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Post by Liguus on Oct 5, 2019 4:05:35 GMT
The bugs in the water are springtails. Completely harmless. The black flies are annoying, and if it starts with s probably Sciaridae. Hard to get rid of since they love moist substrate. Changing the substrate completely helps and a 100% soil swap can be done on a very rare occasion. You can also buy yellow glue traps to help kill the fungus gnats.
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Post by Liguus on Oct 4, 2019 19:26:29 GMT
A cake keeper is not really a good set up, especially for something like 10 adult C. aspersum. Also ventilation holes would be preferred over opening the container sporadically. And on top of that they should have a layer of soil at the bottom of the terrarium - it grows beneficial bacteria which they need for their gut health. They ingest it when they eat the soil.
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Post by Liguus on Oct 4, 2019 14:10:15 GMT
Theoretically, but pacific sidebands love cool conditions and a lot of space, so a large single-species enclosure would be more optimal for them. Also make sure you keep it in a cooler part of the house as they won't tolerate content warm temperatures well. Ideal range is 72-60*F.
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Post by Liguus on Sept 30, 2019 4:45:58 GMT
They are not as carnivorous as something like a Rosy Wolfsnail so you can still offer them a variety of fruits and vegetables. They will be healthier eating a variety of foods on top of whatever meat they eat. Not sure what they could catch from the bait worms but I guess anything is possible. If I were you I would try feeding them cooked shrimp, rehydrated bloodworms, possibly some extra chicken, eggs, and seeing how it responds. Since they eat fruit & veg too they should have no problems scavenging a large variety of protein sources and don't necessarily require live food items.
The shell on all decollate snails seems to break off as they grow. I'm not sure anything can be done about it. It may take it a while to get used to the cuttlebone but It should realize it's edible in a couple of weeks.
It likely won't want to eat it's own eggs.
"Self-fertilization and Genetic Population Structure in a Colonizing Land Snail" by Selander & Kaufman suggests that self-fertilization may be very common in this species, so you may have good luck getting eggs even with just one snail.
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Post by Liguus on Sept 22, 2019 22:58:27 GMT
I went ahead and made a video about the smoothie formula I use to feed my snails. I figured it may be useful to anyone who may try to keep Florida snail species in the future. The recipe is: (withheld) I a just became part of this group but found this old thread. I would love to know the recipe and see the video as it is seems to not be on the post anymore. Thank you very much It's impossible
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Post by Liguus on Aug 28, 2019 20:53:26 GMT
The best calcium source is cuttlebone, since they can choose when to rasp it. The powdered calcium is usually not advised since they often will invest too much alongside their food. The shell is made of calcium but also an outer protein layer (periostracum) and the proper protein-calcium balance is a bit finicky so once it's thrown off one way or the other the shell growth starts to be negatively affected.
what % of calcium is in the powder? Similar to the calcium, protein should be provided in a balanced amount, maybe once a week or so. Usually people feed dog biscuits high in calcium, but shrimp pellets, bloodworms, fish flakes, etc. will all work as a protein supplement if they are willing to eat it.
Do they only eat lettuce? they should be getting at least a small variety of different vegetables and some fruit for optimal health.
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Post by Liguus on Aug 27, 2019 19:56:19 GMT
Looks like they could be in the genus Ventridens.
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Post by Liguus on Aug 27, 2019 19:54:57 GMT
What kind of protein are they getting?
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Post by Liguus on Aug 27, 2019 19:53:30 GMT
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Post by Liguus on Jul 15, 2019 9:30:33 GMT
I love this species, but I've only kept them once. Wish I could try again but they are indeed hard to find. One thing I thought of is that they like it cool and moist. So theoretically if a terrarium is set up with a peltier cooler and a humidifier it should be optimal for them. I hop to try it out one day.
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Post by Liguus on Jul 15, 2019 9:28:47 GMT
I tossed the whole tube in after I opened it so all the mets would run out. They eventually leave the terrarium but if the parasite mites are there they will stick around for a while.
They are usually packed in vermiculite which is made from a bunch of minerals so they should be fine.
The mites should be running around. When I got my tube there was no movement but I ordered it in November, and once they "heated up" in my house after I opened the package they were running around the tube. It may be that yours died if they overheated in the post. IDK. it's always a good idea to wait a while and see if anything is moving in the tube and then contact the company if there's a problem. The mites are small but they run around fast and the movement is noticeable for sure.
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Post by Liguus on Jul 6, 2019 14:32:04 GMT
I've never bothered to differentiate them. Honestly I never saw a reason to do so. As long as I have a breeding population in my terrariums that's al I care about. I kind of just appreciate them as a whole if that makes any sense.
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Post by Liguus on Jul 6, 2019 14:29:11 GMT
Cornu aspersum don't require high humidity, but they will be awake more often if it's humid. Otherwise they just sleep attached to the walls with a thin mucus film if it's too dry for them (something they would do in nature if it hasn't been raining often). You don't need to buy a humidifier, and spraying once a day, or covering the majority (90%) of a screen top will hold plenty of moisture in for them.
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Post by Liguus on Jul 4, 2019 16:05:56 GMT
I used them with Helix pomatia. The predatory mites don't hurt snails, they just eat other mites.
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Post by Liguus on Jul 4, 2019 0:26:21 GMT
Hypoaspis is the one usually recommended, but I got the mix pack which included them as one of the three.
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Post by Liguus on Jul 2, 2019 20:30:13 GMT
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