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Post by helptoall on Feb 17, 2018 3:06:02 GMT
Im trying to find natural antbitics/anti inflammatories that are safe for snails, if you have any experience with ones id like to hear. also those are considered very good anti inflammatories with humans so i wanted to check if they are safe to try with snails: cinnamon powder ,cinnamon oil,Turmeric powder, Ginger ,Garlic ,Cayenne and Clove thank you!
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Post by helptoall on Feb 16, 2018 16:16:30 GMT
Does any part {flowers,leaves,roots} of common grass can make aby harm to sanils?
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Post by helptoall on Feb 14, 2018 23:21:12 GMT
Hi, Im looking for info about the following: how to disinfect a wound ,how to give nutrient to a snail which is in bad shape and wont eat,how to stop bleeding from a wound,how to support/treat organs which has been demaged by illness or trauma.
Any info,articles,ideas,personal exp you have might help.. its for treating an ijured snail ive just found..thank you
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Post by helptoall on Sept 25, 2017 19:57:13 GMT
Hi ive fond a slug that somone has put salt on him, he's alive and his tail seems to suffer the most demage. it is blackish and dry... other then that he he's mouth is out like hes giving a kiss. ive washed him and put him i a small box with cucumber and water, he is moving slowly.. anyone has idea what to do?
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Post by helptoall on May 19, 2017 10:12:52 GMT
umm from my experience in this condition he wont "accept" the artificial piece, from when ive found him till now hes trying to further brake the shell. he wont dry beacause im dumping the tank.. do you have experience with taping shells this way?
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Post by helptoall on May 19, 2017 5:43:22 GMT
no, its the mentel. its now looks much better though he is still weak, he still shows interest in food. lso there was a slug inside his shell, it looked like he got in there befor the snail start estivating. e was sleeping on the seal from the inside. Do you think i can put him back? he is tiny and its really scares me cuz most of the time im finding him in the tank
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Post by helptoall on May 18, 2017 13:32:21 GMT
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Post by helptoall on May 18, 2017 13:31:51 GMT
Hi, iv found him today,he probebly fell since its very windy today. He was on the floor with a big brake in his shell, and the normal opening sealed with estivation seal.Since ive found him he is trying to brake further his shell ,He isnt bubbeling or twiching for now, the brake is in a place where theres a good chance that he dosent have any internal or organs demages, but its not certain. For now hes in a tank with coco husk ,food,water and alot of humidity. Im thinking i should brake the piece that he is trying to brake, like in a way that the broken hole and the shell opening will connect, what do you think?
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Post by helptoall on Apr 10, 2017 10:11:20 GMT
hi,does somone know if beets are ok? i saw someone wrote that he tried but the snails didnt ate, do you know if its safe to try?
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Post by helptoall on Apr 10, 2017 9:40:01 GMT
i tried but its too blurry, you wont see anything.. anyway i decided to do it, i broke the shell between the hole and the opening.. ther operation went withour complications and the snail seems better now. hes crawling around the tank ,still havent seen him eating
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Post by helptoall on Apr 9, 2017 22:33:35 GMT
ive found a new one today{the first one is still recovering,seems healthy and good} he's very small, and has a hole in the "forehead" of the shell. i wanted to ask what you think i should do,he seems to be very uncomfortable, all the time he comes out from the normal hole then go back and coming for the break, i think he dosne know what to do ,he isnt crawling and i think its beacause hes kinda stuck that way.he also eating the shell all the time downwards from the break,looks like its in order to connect the break to the normal opening. Do you think i shold try breaking this part? is not in a place i think will harm him and it looks like he's in distress. he can fuly retracked deper bthen where the hole is. the marked place is where the hole is
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Post by helptoall on Mar 19, 2017 20:26:10 GMT
yes he is better, almost all healed! eating alot!
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Post by helptoall on Mar 9, 2017 23:45:05 GMT
ive asked before but no one awnsered, does some one know if its ok to feed with arugula?
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Post by helptoall on Mar 4, 2017 1:29:09 GMT
Here is a photo of the shell injury, it looks more bad now, it was just cracks when ie found him, i guess some of the part were disconnected and now fell off. do you think i should try "bandage" it? with eggshells skin maybe? or should i let him heal by himself?
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Post by helptoall on Mar 3, 2017 17:18:47 GMT
He started to wonder a bit in the tank. when he is crawling amotimes he spins,and his shell dosen move along, so it is lie verticle to his foot and head. also it looks like his mentel is retracked when hes foot and head is out,it looks a bit unusual,do you know if this could be a sign to mental collapse? though i think in mental collapse its the opposite then this.. maybe beacause he has cracks in his inner axis his mental is streched inside in order to heal the shell cracks?
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Post by helptoall on Mar 3, 2017 16:38:13 GMT
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Post by helptoall on Mar 3, 2017 13:35:27 GMT
He has some cracks in his inner shell,dosent lok severe,the thing is that he has a very weired mucus on his foot, its look more thick then the what they usually do.it looks like humen mucuse,and it has a white spot on it. he dosent look so good,he seems weak, it can be that he just got the hit and he is in shock ,but im wandering if theres something else,someone has any ideas?
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Post by helptoall on Jan 20, 2017 14:12:13 GMT
Someone knows about it? why its happenng and whar it means? is it a bad sign>?
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Post by helptoall on Jan 19, 2017 18:56:16 GMT
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Post by helptoall on Jan 18, 2017 11:23:48 GMT
Hi im trying to create a discussion to gather and share all the info we have about snails healing from shell injuries and other conditions. Ill start by saying that all im writing is opinions comes from expirience an some articles that ive read,and non of it is certain,its mostley ideas. After a few encounters with snails with broken shells and some reading ive conclued a few ideas: I think that when a snail is hurt and broke is shell there is a major to wether he has or hasnet got internal injurie.From my experince a snail with internal injury will act diffrent from one who hasnt:A few houres or even less he wont move,will show signs of retracting problems,might be semi retracted ,wont show interest in food or calciume and wont start a regenerating process.{once again all ideas,not facts}.those incidents are very hard for us to treat and help since we have minor information about their internal systems and how to treat,analyse,give medications or to operate. I will be happy to hear any information anyone have about theire internal system,organs that could recive demage in such cases,and perhaps idea for helping and treating. When a snail dosent seem to have internal injuriey i think that he might react different.I saw a few times and read here about snails who had a bad shell injuriey,even a case when a snail lost hes entire shell, but there werent signs for internal injuries,and they show a big diffrence.First of all even after a few houres or days ,the snails stayed active,wandering around and seemed to looking for a safe place or a place where he will stick upside downfor some reasone.The ones i saw show interest in food and calciume,and show signs of regenerating. I want to tell about two very similar cases,one of me and one that i read in this forum. in both cases the situation seemed very alike.Both cases have a severe shell demage,both showen no sign for internal injuries. In my case a grown up snail got hes entire shell brake beside a small part of the inner shell and a broken,not completley in place part of the outer shell.for about 48 houres he show interes in calciuming and wandering around. After that the part from the outer shell fell of and all that was left was his inner shell.,since that happened he started to show more signs of distress,and it was clearly that the shape of his body has change due to the fact nothing supported it. There is an assumptin that when the shell isnt there to "hold" the body, the body and organs{possibly lungs and more} starting to disfunction and recieve demage.In both cases i saw somthing that sounds like this assumption, when both in my and the one iv read when the seconed shell lost has accored and the body shape differented due to lack of support the situoation has tuned to the worse. Both cases also showen these signs: at the last houres there seemed like a white somthing is trying to get out from te genitle pore, and also in my case there were signs sever muscles weakness that resulted in stuff like the mouth of the snails was fully out in a way i never saw before,and the foot was also very extracked{the opposite of retracked,not sure if thats the word}.
What ive questionaly concluded from this is that that there is a big signifficance to the "holding the body" ability of the shell, and perhaps when we treating these cases that somthing we should remeber and try to prevent from further lost {perhaps by preventing the snail to travel to much and keeping him in a very small tank,keeping is food water and calciume near all times,and other creative ideas for keeping him in the place. and when there is a case when there isnt support to the body,maybe we can try artificialy creating something that will support,perhaps by gluing the shell part,or maybe with other objects.{Of course everything should be done very carefully and gently}. In addition if we suspect the lungs is the main problems in these situations{Which i think its very possible since i saw signs of slow decaying and growing weakness,like the muscle weakness, that can be caused from slow suffocation due to lack of oxygen income.}maybe we can try to provide extra oxygen,like putting the snails in an oxygen cell,or think of other ways to oxigenage the tank.
Please read,think,conclued and comment! any opinion and info can help,
i want to add that i belive that anyone can do anything ,and if you dont give up on something you really want and care about you can do everything! Feel what you feel is right.
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Post by helptoall on Dec 10, 2016 15:16:01 GMT
books.google.co.uk/books?id=NaAMh8sEU4oC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=prolapse&f=false ive found this link in one of the topics in pests illnes and disease, it was a locked thread so im posting here in order to ask and talk about it. the snail section is in page 95. It has alot of information about snails organs and system and diseases,parasites and other problems.There is also some reaserch ther abot medicies ,and drugs that put the snail to "sleep" in order to treat him or make him rest. maybe we can try to extract information for it ,organize it ,and use it? especially if someone here has some bilogical knowledge that can help translate and explain everything
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Post by helptoall on Dec 9, 2016 21:20:23 GMT
here are some picture in higher quality. the side that is shown is completley exposed,the side that you dont see its the side with the inner spiral has the original shell.The lower part of the side you see was covered till today with piece of the original shel ,that fell off today.the thin layer that im talking about is also isnt seen and its mainly on the upper part of his body,growing from the end of what left from the original shell. Ive noticed that it looks like a process in which a relativley large area of the exposed mantle is covered with very thin layer and then the layer is compressed to crate thicker layer that covering smaller area.this process repeat itself and creating "lines" of thicker layer that continue to cover more and more from the exposed mantle
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Post by helptoall on Dec 9, 2016 21:13:02 GMT
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Post by helptoall on Dec 9, 2016 20:10:06 GMT
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Post by helptoall on Dec 9, 2016 15:59:24 GMT
There is clearly a thin white layer starting to form on his mantle,and he is "hugging" the cuttlebone now,maybe he is consuming via is foot? should i powder it and put around him? Yes that is what he's doing. I think the layer is a good sign (but still I am not hopeful) Keep it wet. 3 hours ago the another part of the shell fell of,it was the part that is connected to the remaining piece of his lip.he still got the inner shel,and i think that it wasnt all bed beacause that part was hurting him..he's hurtbeat still stable'and im not seeing any breething problenms,although i dont know how it is supposed to look,how can i check if he is breathing right?
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