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Post by eric2 on Oct 4, 2005 14:35:58 GMT
just out of curiosity to see numbers how many people would be interested in albino margies?
eric
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Evelyn
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Post by Evelyn on Oct 4, 2005 14:57:35 GMT
Do you mean a margie with a light or white foot?
I´m very interested in three of them.
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Post by megaernst on Oct 4, 2005 15:06:42 GMT
A true albino lacking all pigments? I would be interested.
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Post by eric2 on Oct 4, 2005 15:13:03 GMT
what do you mean lacking all pigments?
eric
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Post by megaernst on Oct 4, 2005 15:33:47 GMT
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Post by Paul on Oct 4, 2005 15:41:43 GMT
The thing is though, it is often more than one pigment that gives the colour and as far as I can tell in snails, an albino is one that has the lack of one or more pigments in either shell or body or both.
So often, albinos are not completely colourless.
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Post by megaernst on Oct 4, 2005 16:02:44 GMT
A true albino would lack all pigments, but that don't have to mean that the animal is white:-) Blood, muscles and other things would still give the animal some color. Look at albino rabbits for example - bright red eyes:-)
And there are several forms om "partial" albinos in for example reptiles . The most common would be amelanistic - animals who lack the black pigment melanin.
Mammals only have one pigment - melanin. So an amelanistic rabbit or human is also a true albino:-) Yes - even a red fox only have black pigments! How many (and which) pigments a snail has I don't know - but I would like to hear about it if anyone does.
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Post by section8angel on Oct 4, 2005 16:12:29 GMT
How big would they be? I'm looking for another Margie but smaller than Freddie as I want to watch it grow.
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LisaLQ
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Post by LisaLQ on Oct 4, 2005 17:35:14 GMT
Hmmm any piccies or rough description/idea?
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Evelyn
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Post by Evelyn on Oct 4, 2005 19:47:31 GMT
Here a pic of my young margies. You mean a albino margie looks like mine on the left side?  |
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Post by eric2 on Oct 5, 2005 18:03:05 GMT
yes the one on the left anyone who wants one has to say now and we need at least 12 to get them for approx £15 each
eric
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Post by Kevin on Oct 5, 2005 18:08:18 GMT
yes the one on the left anyone who wants one has to say now and we need at least 12 to get them for approx £15 each eric I'd want 2 of them.  |
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Post by section8angel on Oct 5, 2005 18:22:22 GMT
Aww it's so cute. But I don't really want to pay that much for one. Sorry  |
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Post by copigeon on Oct 5, 2005 19:23:31 GMT
If were talking adult specimins, I'd take 2 also. But not that much for juvenilles.
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Post by gail on Oct 5, 2005 20:19:42 GMT
Hmmm I'm interested...does that include p and p or is that on top of the £15? Where you getting them from? I mean are they going to be nice healthy snails?
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Post by eric2 on Oct 5, 2005 20:22:18 GMT
they should be nice and healthy i think that is including the p and p
eric
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Post by megaernst on Oct 5, 2005 20:46:34 GMT
If it looks like that I'm not interested.
And I wouldn't call it albino either - not with all that color in the shell and on the body, it even has the stripe on the "back"! Probably just a local variation. Maybe not even that, even closely related humans can look quite different:-)
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Post by copigeon on Oct 5, 2005 23:51:54 GMT
scratch albino... unusual white skinned... verify the size and p&p issues if you can eric, is the guy trustworthy? not keen on giving up largish amounts of money up front on a promise. |
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Post by LisaLQ on Oct 5, 2005 23:56:40 GMT
Are we talking babies for £15 or bigger snails? Seems like a lot of money for a baby!
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Post by fredrik on Oct 6, 2005 7:03:08 GMT
Megaernst, what would you call the snail if not an albino? Albinism ARE animals lacking one or several pigments. And the eyes of a rabbit aren't red, they only appear to be red because the underlying blood vessels are showing through were there aren't enough pigments to cover them. And the fact that animals only have one pigment is false. Animals have several pigments, which melanin is one of them but there are others as well such as hemoglobin. Read more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigment#List_of_pigmentsBest wishes Fredrik |
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Post by anjieburdett on Oct 6, 2005 7:12:28 GMT
Welcome Back Fred! Hope you're feeling better ;D  Anjie,x. |
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Post by megaernst on Oct 6, 2005 7:47:37 GMT
"And the fact that animals only have one pigment is false."
And I never said that. I said that mammals (däggdjur) only have one pigment - melanin. Of course meaning in the skin, hair, eyes etc that we can see. How and where these pigment-"cells" are placed give the animal its (appearance of) color.
And I still say that an albino lack all pigment "on the surface", you could find alot information if you surf the web and visit pages about cornsnake-morphs.
Tha snail in the picture? I'd call it blonde....
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Post by fredrik on Oct 6, 2005 8:39:16 GMT
Ok, my fault, I should have said mammals, but the fact that mammals only have one pigment is false.
It's true that the skin contains melanin, I'm not saying that, what I'm saying is that mammals do have several pigments and not only melanin.
And please, don't try to petronize me, I know the meaning of the word mammals and I'm well aware of albinism in reptiles.
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Post by fredrik on Oct 6, 2005 8:43:17 GMT
Thank's Anjie, but I'm not well yet.
Take care
/Fredrik
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Post by megaernst on Oct 6, 2005 9:12:46 GMT
I'm not patronizing, I was trying to be helpful. Obviously a mistake. Sorry - won't happen again.
BTW - you are still wrong.
I'm not wasting any more of my time trying to clear up the confusion about this subject that exists on this forum. Keep calling your light colored snail "albinos", it really doesn't make any difference anyway.
If anyone really has an interest in getting it right all the information needed is available on the internet.....
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